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.i xu le makfa fa'u le titspi cu makfa fa'u titspi

On Fri, Oct 27, 2017, 11:44 PM Alex Rozenshteyn <rpglover64@gmail.com>
wrote:

> Now I'm wondering if there's a way to translate "Are 'magic' and 'candy'
> magic and candy, respectively?" I thought I could use termsets, but <za'a
> ju'o cu'i> you can't put selbri in a termset. <.i xu le makfa cu makfa .ije
> le titspi cu titspi> sounds more redundant.
>
> On Wed, Oct 25, 2017 at 7:43 PM Michael Turniansky <mturniansky@gmail.com>
> wrote:
>
>>   FWIW, I agree.
>>   --gejyspa
>>
>> On Wed, Oct 25, 2017 at 10:08 PM, .arpis. <rpglover64+jbobau@gmail.com>
>> wrote:
>>
>>> I've been away from lojban for years now. I'm posting because I ran into
>>> what I think is a cool bit of expressivity in "le" vs "lo". My wife asked
>>> me to boil water and make her some tea; when I asked which tea, she
>>> responded with "'Candy' or 'magic'." These are not names of the teas, but
>>> just ways we refer to them. I think this would translate well as "le
>>> titspi" and "le makfa", and that those would be more faithful than using
>>> "la".
>>>
>>> Thoughts?
>>>
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<p dir=3D"ltr">.i xu le makfa fa&#39;u le titspi cu makfa fa&#39;u titspi</=
p>
<br><div class=3D"gmail_quote"><div dir=3D"ltr">On Fri, Oct 27, 2017, 11:44=
 PM Alex Rozenshteyn &lt;<a href=3D"mailto:rpglover64@gmail.com">rpglover64=
@gmail.com</a>&gt; wrote:<br></div><blockquote class=3D"gmail_quote" style=
=3D"margin:0 0 0 .8ex;border-left:1px #ccc solid;padding-left:1ex"><div dir=
=3D"ltr">Now I&#39;m wondering if there&#39;s a way to translate &quot;Are =
&#39;magic&#39; and &#39;candy&#39; magic and candy, respectively?&quot; I =
thought I could use termsets, but &lt;za&#39;a ju&#39;o cu&#39;i&gt; you ca=
n&#39;t put selbri in a termset. &lt;.i xu le makfa cu makfa .ije le titspi=
 cu titspi&gt; sounds more redundant.</div><br><div class=3D"gmail_quote"><=
div dir=3D"ltr">On Wed, Oct 25, 2017 at 7:43 PM Michael Turniansky &lt;<a h=
ref=3D"mailto:mturniansky@gmail.com" target=3D"_blank">mturniansky@gmail.co=
m</a>&gt; wrote:<br></div><blockquote class=3D"gmail_quote" style=3D"margin=
:0 0 0 .8ex;border-left:1px #ccc solid;padding-left:1ex"><div dir=3D"ltr">=
=C2=A0 FWIW, I agree.<div>=C2=A0 --gejyspa</div></div><div class=3D"gmail_e=
xtra"><br><div class=3D"gmail_quote"></div></div><div class=3D"gmail_extra"=
><div class=3D"gmail_quote">On Wed, Oct 25, 2017 at 10:08 PM, .arpis. <span=
 dir=3D"ltr">&lt;<a href=3D"mailto:rpglover64+jbobau@gmail.com" target=3D"_=
blank">rpglover64+jbobau@gmail.com</a>&gt;</span> wrote:<br></div></div><di=
v class=3D"gmail_extra"><div class=3D"gmail_quote"><blockquote class=3D"gma=
il_quote" style=3D"margin:0 0 0 .8ex;border-left:1px #ccc solid;padding-lef=
t:1ex"><div dir=3D"ltr">I&#39;ve been away from lojban for years now. I&#39=
;m posting because I ran into what I think is a cool bit of expressivity in=
 &quot;le&quot; vs &quot;lo&quot;. My wife asked me to boil water and make =
her some tea; when I asked which tea, she responded with &quot;&#39;Candy&#=
39; or &#39;magic&#39;.&quot; These are not names of the teas, but just way=
s we refer to them. I think this would translate well as &quot;le titspi&qu=
ot; and &quot;le makfa&quot;, and that those would be more faithful than us=
ing &quot;la&quot;.<div><br></div><div>Thoughts?</div></div><span class=3D"=
m_5726071019534941771m_7387345100038325583HOEnZb"><font color=3D"#888888">

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