Received: from mail-ua0-f183.google.com ([209.85.217.183]:47306) by stodi.digitalkingdom.org with esmtps (TLSv1.2:ECDHE-RSA-AES128-GCM-SHA256:128) (Exim 4.89) (envelope-from ) id 1eCnV1-00085z-AD for lojban-beginners-archive@lojban.org; Thu, 09 Nov 2017 06:08:09 -0800 Received: by mail-ua0-f183.google.com with SMTP id e46sf3193271uaa.6 for ; Thu, 09 Nov 2017 06:08:07 -0800 (PST) DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha256; c=relaxed/relaxed; d=googlegroups.com; s=20161025; h=sender:date:from:to:message-id:in-reply-to:references:subject :mime-version:x-original-sender:reply-to:precedence:mailing-list :list-id:list-post:list-help:list-archive:list-subscribe :list-unsubscribe; bh=y2Nq5x5DrLY7XBRYqqYDF5rrqmgyQ6KiZnmd1JQtbV4=; b=mSPfuXL2S9f52jgWE9e3848JO9CS507K/pEPodDECATw6JFuYTubzeMmuemoy5HD23 TDBUb1pGke88D8HEj5FkoDdMbHt3hVT5bTXAHempMe4WmTpBSibBKyR4+nFlelcpIHlu /VfBmLesCIbyIjSk20m+6AJe78ob6GShKPkH69AuNQ4lMPQ5xNesVyZxdxUSToOEST5H N5czS4bSuJXEgS72qedWKZxhYpEMLfRpKXpZH5R2TU0XEv6NBBD6RiTvwoUK/J11+Ad4 gvJ40B+rZ6wMuNnmNsP+BwUcxwjMz5uQ2D5tTj/mRUQwCsMo7rCl2kmuBRX/JMOzrzHi 15AQ== DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha256; c=relaxed/relaxed; d=gmail.com; s=20161025; h=date:from:to:message-id:in-reply-to:references:subject:mime-version :x-original-sender:reply-to:precedence:mailing-list:list-id :list-post:list-help:list-archive:list-subscribe:list-unsubscribe; bh=y2Nq5x5DrLY7XBRYqqYDF5rrqmgyQ6KiZnmd1JQtbV4=; b=VhJpFlrPJe2JPvBGItqVDhiEet/KZgOFynHwx1g5k8kcPAxIv9ncZMbpk53Xt0sHhJ rkEko35kJhA1bfWtKocbUHmwG0duxc3BLv083rVy8Uh0XdgqQ4mXP1/kylhdRuAqDxft eyil3ebREW06dWfx3bQYucDhlQCM2Lt9ALfGBptURqVI27Qe7nEEwuTEz1o0Qh8LDMam XWK/S5oogOk0Mff0Hie/2yNezsomHuqPbF2uB3FryDqLoZO83buUgRqgCtCRBUjBh+Y4 tossUh5VYjgkqZnwWqKDAbQKJqCQmJxEc0KZuiaGCVj/+mAVBI1z49XFxmH9QGqvBwzt 3lVQ== X-Google-DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha256; c=relaxed/relaxed; d=1e100.net; s=20161025; h=sender:x-gm-message-state:date:from:to:message-id:in-reply-to :references:subject:mime-version:x-original-sender:reply-to :precedence:mailing-list:list-id:x-spam-checked-in-group:list-post :list-help:list-archive:list-subscribe:list-unsubscribe; bh=y2Nq5x5DrLY7XBRYqqYDF5rrqmgyQ6KiZnmd1JQtbV4=; b=HBNF0wjPo1vUjDuhK0txm5zXwFLCjwlmaNpK2MMeHU6YHwOr+3+tIuXA7TUiChRv7v 5uYnGlwEhvtriKvdn0lbNtdBFbZyuNCznBvhFpG3zOQ68EgF5Ah4QzEg8XCSyB7fO2B9 6AHa8f5mXB9BVODFfGaoOFWywPoESuCEzPWHr1cqbLLIpE2LhmYj15vAmZhRZF9zp+D6 mEnflkx/SVk6bPAzsHw1ZhZSsRSshiVvPcxXt/kkV+ZElEU1q0mrS+TyUGHA8fv3eJ3/ lfu+X+WIEDjoFZkxEiiE5e+TrBAmPi61rsLiBOm6jlHwgiBNx6pFrUGhYpIA8O82DdXJ W5yA== Sender: lojban-beginners@googlegroups.com X-Gm-Message-State: AJaThX6vLsoko/20LoCmOKy8yi36URB0GSV4su6T7M2eSmb1NMLyj9Ca QpQQL1kdf/pLiZnFWat9UHM= X-Google-Smtp-Source: ABhQp+Q/x8Rvhtj4W+00a0YaaFtH9CG7SP31rIeABSwLREDg+dfolxYJAplJRo3GvVfclCurtiq/UA== X-Received: by 10.31.149.85 with SMTP id x82mr448430vkd.3.1510236480825; Thu, 09 Nov 2017 06:08:00 -0800 (PST) X-BeenThere: lojban-beginners@googlegroups.com Received: by 10.31.67.151 with SMTP id q145ls5403728vka.6.gmail; Thu, 09 Nov 2017 06:07:59 -0800 (PST) X-Received: by 10.31.168.133 with SMTP id r127mr449899vke.8.1510236479442; Thu, 09 Nov 2017 06:07:59 -0800 (PST) Date: Thu, 9 Nov 2017 06:07:59 -0800 (PST) From: sukender1@gmail.com To: Lojban Beginners Message-Id: <8a17d6f0-039b-431f-ba4a-410369c9e73b@googlegroups.com> In-Reply-To: References: Subject: Re: [lojban-beginners] "Until proven otherwise" MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: multipart/mixed; boundary="----=_Part_2458_192272790.1510236479206" X-Original-Sender: sukender1@gmail.com Reply-To: lojban-beginners@googlegroups.com Precedence: list Mailing-list: list lojban-beginners@googlegroups.com; contact lojban-beginners+owners@googlegroups.com List-ID: X-Spam-Checked-In-Group: lojban-beginners@googlegroups.com X-Google-Group-Id: 300742228892 List-Post: , List-Help: , List-Archive: , List-Unsubscribe: , X-Spam-Score: -1.8 (-) X-Spam_score: -1.8 X-Spam_score_int: -17 X-Spam_bar: - Content-Length: 5646 ------=_Part_2458_192272790.1510236479206 Content-Type: multipart/alternative; boundary="----=_Part_2459_1797592832.1510236479206" ------=_Part_2459_1797592832.1510236479206 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="UTF-8" Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable Much shorter, thanks! ... even if "waiting for a contradictor" is not that= =20 far away from what we generally express :-) Can I say "lo nafte [ku] cau"? Le jeudi 9 novembre 2017 14:49:27 UTC+1, Michael Turniansky a =C3=A9crit : > > That implies you are actually waiting until there is a contradictor. I= =20 > might simply say se cau lo natfe > > --gejyspa=20 > > On Thu, Nov 9, 2017 at 1:18 AM, > wrote: > >> I try to find a translation of this expression. What do you think about= =20 >> "denpa lo nu naljetyja'o"? >> >> la .sykyndyr. >> >> --=20 >> You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Group= s=20 >> "Lojban Beginners" group. >> To unsubscribe from this group and stop receiving emails from it, send a= n=20 >> email to lojban-beginne...@googlegroups.com . >> To post to this group, send email to lojban-b...@googlegroups.com=20 >> . >> Visit this group at https://groups.google.com/group/lojban-beginners. >> For more options, visit https://groups.google.com/d/optout. >> > > --=20 You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups "= Lojban Beginners" group. 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Much shorter, thanks! ... even if "waiting for a cont= radictor" is not that far away from what we generally express :-)
= Can I say "lo nafte [ku] cau"?

Le jeudi 9 novembre 2017 14= :49:27 UTC+1, Michael Turniansky a =C3=A9crit=C2=A0:
=C2=A0 That implies you are actually= waiting until there is a contradictor.=C2=A0 I might simply say se cau lo = natfe

=C2=A0 =C2=A0 =C2=A0 =C2=A0 --gejyspa=C2=A0
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On Thu, Nov 9, 2017 at 1:18 AM, <= span dir=3D"ltr"><suke...@gmail.com> wrote:
I try to find a translation of this express= ion. What do you think about "denpa lo nu naljetyja'o"?
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la .sykyndyr.

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