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Date: Fri, 06 Sep 2019 22:40:05 -0400
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On Friday, 6 September 2019 21.55.14 EDT Xabju wrote:
> Thank you. What kind of word (the missing subject) should appear between
> "sy." and "ckaji" if the order were kept the same?

It is perfectly grammatical in Lojban to omit the subject, but in English i=
t=20
is not. However, "ca sy", although syntactically correct, makes no sense,=
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because skirts, skirt-beetles, and suck-eaters are not times. I say "ca li=
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ci", and a number is not a time either, but a clock is a common device for=
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assigning numbers to times.

Of course, nonsensicality is relative =E2=80=94 lo miptera .enai lo cakcink=
i cu sakcti=20
.iseni'ibo lu le skaci cakcinki cu sakcti li'u na rirli, but "ca sy" is mor=
e=20
nonsensical than "le cakcinki cu sakcti".

> Just to be clarify, all that was needed was "sy." and "ca" switching
> places, right? That's great -- preserves the meter.

Yes.

On Friday, 6 September 2019 22.01.26 EDT Xabju wrote:
> I was also unsure if "sy." was the correct way to refer to "le skaci
> cakcinki", or if it should be "cy."

I'm not sure either, but for a tongue-twister, either is better than "ra".=
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"cy" could refer to the beetle or the food, whereas "ra" could refer to the=
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beetle but not the food (which would be "ri", since it's the immediately=20
preceding sumti).

Pierre
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Por H o por B, los campos magn=C3=A9ticos se difieren dentro de un im=C3=A1=
n.


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