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[173.13.139.236]) by gmr-mx.google.com with ESMTPS id e6si4508260pbt.1.2012.03.01.14.11.55 (version=TLSv1/SSLv3 cipher=OTHER); Thu, 01 Mar 2012 14:11:55 -0800 (PST) Received-SPF: pass (google.com: domain of nobody@stodi.digitalkingdom.org designates 173.13.139.236 as permitted sender) client-ip=173.13.139.236; Received: from nobody by stodi.digitalkingdom.org with local (Exim 4.76) (envelope-from ) id 1S3EE6-0002Tp-5Y for lojban-beginners@googlegroups.com; Thu, 01 Mar 2012 14:11:54 -0800 Received: from mail-bk0-f53.google.com ([209.85.214.53]:62979) by stodi.digitalkingdom.org with esmtps (TLSv1:RC4-SHA:128) (Exim 4.76) (envelope-from ) id 1S3EDx-0002Sn-Q4; Thu, 01 Mar 2012 14:11:53 -0800 Received: by bkwj4 with SMTP id j4so1162851bkw.40 for ; Thu, 01 Mar 2012 14:11:38 -0800 (PST) Received-SPF: pass (google.com: domain of mturniansky@gmail.com designates 10.204.152.7 as permitted sender) client-ip=10.204.152.7; Received: from mr.google.com ([10.204.152.7]) by 10.204.152.7 with SMTP id e7mr3797638bkw.70.1330639898094 (num_hops = 1); Thu, 01 Mar 2012 14:11:38 -0800 (PST) MIME-Version: 1.0 Received: by 10.204.152.7 with SMTP id e7mr3058882bkw.70.1330639897918; Thu, 01 Mar 2012 14:11:37 -0800 (PST) Received: by 10.205.119.4 with HTTP; Thu, 1 Mar 2012 14:11:37 -0800 (PST) In-Reply-To: References: <20111229175505.GJ18276@stodi.digitalkingdom.org> Date: Thu, 1 Mar 2012 17:11:37 -0500 Message-ID: Subject: Re: [lojban-beginners] Have you tried to memorize the rafsi list? From: Michael Turniansky To: lojban-beginners@googlegroups.com Cc: lojban-list@lojban.org, lojban-beginners@lojban.org X-Spam-Score: -0.1 (/) X-Spam_score: -0.1 X-Spam_score_int: 0 X-Spam_bar: / Sender: lojban-beginners@googlegroups.com X-Original-Sender: mturniansky@gmail.com X-Original-Authentication-Results: gmr-mx.google.com; spf=pass (google.com: domain of nobody@stodi.digitalkingdom.org designates 173.13.139.236 as permitted sender) smtp.mail=nobody@stodi.digitalkingdom.org; dkim=pass header.i=@gmail.com Reply-To: lojban-beginners@googlegroups.com Precedence: list Mailing-list: list lojban-beginners@googlegroups.com; contact lojban-beginners+owners@googlegroups.com List-ID: X-Google-Group-Id: 300742228892 List-Post: , List-Help: , List-Archive: List-Subscribe: , List-Unsubscribe: , Content-Type: multipart/alternative; boundary=0015175df1b0707cb104ba35be8d X-Spam-Score: -0.7 (/) X-Spam_score: -0.7 X-Spam_score_int: -6 X-Spam_bar: / Content-Length: 14949 --0015175df1b0707cb104ba35be8d Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1 Here's what I wrote to Robin: I've not tried yet, still trying to get 100% of the "deep gismu" list down (i.e., all the piddling little tergi'u for every gismu) before I tackle the rafsi list, although I probably know a couple of hundred of those that have been used in lujvo, and those that in fake lujvo that I've looked up based on English words, names, and anagrams of English phrases Well, I just sat down and tried to pour out all those that I remember off the top of my head, and here's what I came up with-- 107, with quite a variety represented. I"m sure I know more (in fact, I just came up with lot more that I know as I was writing this sentence-- vac/vanci, tic/tcica, ku'a/kumfa, cen/centi, mil/milti, pi'e/plipe, suj/sumji, soi/sonci, sro/sorcu, val/valsi, vla/valsi, bai/bapli, maf/makfa, sez/sevzi, xru/xruti and jup/jukpa, bringing the total to 123, but I don't feel like reformatting...) , but this is what I came up with bri bridi gi'a gidva lan lanme nor no'e spa spati bro xebro gi'u gismu lik litki nu'o nu'o ste liste bur bunre gle gletu lob lojbo pav pa tce mutce bu'u bukpu gli glico loj logji ple pelji tel stela ci'a ciska gre pagre lot bloti pli pilno tem temci ci'e ciste gu'e gugde ma'e marce pre prenu ter te cpi cipni gug gugde mal mabla pu'i punji tin tirna cpu lacpu gu'i gusni ma'o cmavo rai traji tre mitre cre certu ja'a jatna mar manri rap rapli tro jitro dad dandu ja'o jarco mer merko rei preti tru turni dau darlu jba jbari mes mensi rel re tur stura deg degji jbe jbena mon morna rib cribe vel ve di'u dinju jbi jibni mor morko ric tricu ve'u vecnu dza da jbo lojbo mum mu rod broda vip vipsi von vo xeb xebro xel xe xi'a xirma xi'u xislu zda zdani ze'a zenba zga zgana --gejyspa On Tue, Feb 28, 2012 at 8:06 PM, MorphemeAddict wrote: > What was the result of this post, if you don't mind saying? > > stevo > > On Thu, Dec 29, 2011 at 12:55 PM, Robin Lee Powell < > rlpowell@digitalkingdom.org> wrote: > >> >> I want to confirm a suspsicion. Please email me privately if you >> have ever tried to memorize the rafsi list. >> >> -Robin >> >> -- >> http://singinst.org/ : Our last, best hope for a fantastic future. >> .i ko na cpedu lo nu stidi vau loi jbopre .i danfu lu na go'i li'u .e >> lu go'i li'u .i ji'a go'i lu na'e go'i li'u .e lu go'i na'i li'u .e >> lu no'e go'i li'u .e lu to'e go'i li'u .e lu lo mamta be do cu sofybakni >> li'u >> >> -- >> You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups >> "Lojban Beginners" group. >> To post to this group, send email to lojban-beginners@googlegroups.com. >> To unsubscribe from this group, send email to >> lojban-beginners+unsubscribe@googlegroups.com. >> For more options, visit this group at >> http://groups.google.com/group/lojban-beginners?hl=en. >> >> > -- > You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups > "Lojban Beginners" group. > To post to this group, send email to lojban-beginners@googlegroups.com. > To unsubscribe from this group, send email to > lojban-beginners+unsubscribe@googlegroups.com. > For more options, visit this group at > http://groups.google.com/group/lojban-beginners?hl=en. > -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups "Lojban Beginners" group. 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Here's what I wrote to Robin:
=A0I've not tried yet, still trying to get 100% of th= e "deep gismu" list down (i.e., all the piddling little tergi'= ;u for every gismu) before I tackle the=A0r= afsi=A0list, although I probably know a couple of hundre= d of those that have been used in lujvo, and those that in fake lujvo that = I've looked up based on English words, names, and anagrams of English p= hrases

=A0 Well, I just s= at down and tried to pour out all those that I remember off the top of my h= ead, and here's what I came up with-- 107, with quite a variety represe= nted. =A0I"m sure I know more (in fact, I just came up with lot more t= hat I know=A0=A0as I was writing this= sentence-- vac/vanci, tic/tcica, ku'a/kumfa, cen/ce= nti, mil/milti, =A0pi'e/plipe, suj/sumji, soi/sonci, sro/sorcu, val/val= si, vla/valsi, bai/bapli, maf/makfa, sez/sevzi, xru/xruti and jup/jukpa, br= inging the total to 123, but I don't feel like reformatting...) , but t= his is what I came up with=A0

bri bridi gi'a gidva lan lanme nor no'e spa spati
bro xebro gi'u gismu lik litki nu'o nu'o ste liste
bur bunre gle gletu lob lojbo pav pa tce mutce
bu'u bukpu gli glico loj logji ple pelji tel stela
ci'a ciska gre pagre lot bloti pli pilno tem temci
ci'e ciste gu'e gugde ma'e marce pre prenu ter te
cpi cipni gug gugde mal mabla pu'i punji tin tirna
cpu lacpu gu'i gusni ma'o cmavo rai traji tre mitre
cre certu ja'a jatna mar manri rap rapli tro jitro
dad dandu ja'o jarco mer merko rei preti tru turni
dau darlu jba jbari mes mensi rel re tur stura
deg degji jbe jbena mon morna rib cribe vel ve
di'u dinju jbi jibni mor morko ric tricu ve'u vecnu
dza da jbo lojbo mum mu rod broda vip vipsi
von vo
xeb xebro
xel xe
xi'a xirma
xi'u xislu
zda zdani
ze'a zenba
zga zgana


=A0 =A0 =A0 =A0 =A0 =A0 =A0 =A0 =A0 =A0 =A0 = =A0 --gejyspa

On Tue, Feb 28, 2012 at 8:= 06 PM, MorphemeAddict <lytlesw@gmail.com> wrote:
What was the result of this post, if you don= 't mind saying?=A0

stevo

On Thu, Dec 29, 2011 at 12:55 PM, Robin Lee Powell <rlpowell@digitalkingdom.org> wrote:

I want to confirm a suspsicion. =A0Please email me privately if you
have ever tried to memorize the rafsi list.

-Robin

--
http://singinst.org/= : =A0Our last, best hope for a fantastic future.
.i ko na cpedu lo nu stidi vau loi jbopre .i danfu lu na go'i li'u = .e
lu go'i li'u .i ji'a go'i lu na'e go'i li'u .e = lu go'i na'i li'u .e
lu no'e go'i li'u .e lu to'e go'i li'u .e lu lo mam= ta be do cu sofybakni li'u

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