Subject: Re: TECH HARANGUE: LE/LO To: lojban@cuvmb.cc.columbia.edu (Lojban List) From: cowan Date: Wed, 20 Dec 1995 11:16:21 -0500 (EST) In-Reply-To: <199512192225.RAA07633@locke.ccil.org> from "ucleaar" at Dec 19, 95 09:24:52 pm X-Mailer: ELM [version 2.4 PL24] Content-Type: text X-From-Space-Date: Wed Dec 20 11:16:21 1995 X-From-Space-Address: cowan Message-ID: Content-Length: 744 la .and. cusku di'e > If you & John agree that the > identity of the referent of {le} shd always be known to the speaker, > then I guess we can use John's old method (something about Orwat being > a spy? - it had to do with spies, anyway): > > da zou koa krici leduu da brode (gie da broda) Ortcutt, Bernard J. Ortcutt, a pillar of the community, of whom our hero Ralph is glad to assert "Ortcutt is no spy". The man Ralph has seen sneaking around the defense plant, OTOH, Ralph does believe to be a spy. Unbeknownst to Ralph, these men are one and the same. So: Ralph believes that Ortcutt is a spy (transparent) and Ralph believes that Ortcutt is no spy (opaque) -- John Cowan cowan@ccil.org e'osai ko sarji la lojban.