Received: from mail-iy0-f189.google.com ([209.85.210.189]:38669) by stodi.digitalkingdom.org with esmtps (TLSv1:RC4-SHA:128) (Exim 4.76) (envelope-from ) id 1SO8tJ-000410-8K; Sat, 28 Apr 2012 07:44:54 -0700 Received: by iahk25 with SMTP id k25sf2474426iah.16 for ; Sat, 28 Apr 2012 07:44:47 -0700 (PDT) DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha256; c=relaxed/relaxed; d=googlegroups.com; s=beta; h=x-beenthere:received-spf:mime-version:sender:in-reply-to:references :from:date:message-id:subject:to:x-original-sender :x-original-authentication-results:reply-to:precedence:mailing-list :list-id:x-google-group-id:list-post:list-help:list-archive :list-subscribe:list-unsubscribe:content-type :content-transfer-encoding; bh=3N6qu39Fa7Ozr/zUt9yvVjUoJJ8/rBDVVE0r2Xhktnw=; b=fS0nU8CC5xgrwI8y0PnmOqaYayCa1m1jOsAl4QOEDiQY6NGgdM15arKkjejdH4Lgf2 KixIEpZ1IdTs0uzbCuVKdqcmO5htxUUqPkknU+q7QJrgDpoC+RNI+dZlSlGNfP4X4Q8/ BpP98A1nu3F7Pcuxw+EpwP9L+5uR5jDI4SN84= Received: by 10.50.95.136 with SMTP id dk8mr542889igb.0.1335624286903; Sat, 28 Apr 2012 07:44:46 -0700 (PDT) X-BeenThere: lojban@googlegroups.com Received: by 10.231.84.14 with SMTP id h14ls2457081ibl.7.gmail; Sat, 28 Apr 2012 07:44:46 -0700 (PDT) Received: by 10.50.188.232 with SMTP id gd8mr5834373igc.4.1335624286325; Sat, 28 Apr 2012 07:44:46 -0700 (PDT) Received: by 10.50.188.232 with SMTP id gd8mr5834372igc.4.1335624286316; Sat, 28 Apr 2012 07:44:46 -0700 (PDT) Received: from mail-ob0-f176.google.com (mail-ob0-f176.google.com [209.85.214.176]) by gmr-mx.google.com with ESMTPS id dd7si3098533igc.0.2012.04.28.07.44.46 (version=TLSv1/SSLv3 cipher=OTHER); Sat, 28 Apr 2012 07:44:46 -0700 (PDT) Received-SPF: pass (google.com: domain of rpglover64@gmail.com designates 209.85.214.176 as permitted sender) client-ip=209.85.214.176; Received: by mail-ob0-f176.google.com with SMTP id ef5so3099403obb.21 for ; Sat, 28 Apr 2012 07:44:46 -0700 (PDT) Received: by 10.182.119.101 with SMTP id kt5mr19859831obb.70.1335624286081; Sat, 28 Apr 2012 07:44:46 -0700 (PDT) MIME-Version: 1.0 Sender: lojban@googlegroups.com Received: by 10.182.46.193 with HTTP; Sat, 28 Apr 2012 07:44:25 -0700 (PDT) In-Reply-To: <26334100.304.1335599201974.JavaMail.geo-discussion-forums@pbctc6> References: <26334100.304.1335599201974.JavaMail.geo-discussion-forums@pbctc6> From: ".arpis." Date: Sat, 28 Apr 2012 10:44:25 -0400 Message-ID: Subject: Re: [lojban] I'm new. To: lojban@googlegroups.com X-Original-Sender: rpglover64@gmail.com X-Original-Authentication-Results: gmr-mx.google.com; spf=pass (google.com: domain of rpglover64@gmail.com designates 209.85.214.176 as permitted sender) smtp.mail=rpglover64@gmail.com; dkim=pass header.i=@gmail.com Reply-To: lojban@googlegroups.com Precedence: list Mailing-list: list lojban@googlegroups.com; contact lojban+owners@googlegroups.com List-ID: X-Google-Group-Id: 1004133512417 List-Post: , List-Help: , List-Archive: List-Subscribe: , List-Unsubscribe: , Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1 Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable X-Spam-Score: -0.7 (/) X-Spam_score: -0.7 X-Spam_score_int: -6 X-Spam_bar: / Content-Length: 1621 If you're finding the vocabulary easy and the grammar hard, start working on making simple sentences and seeing how much you can express and understand. Avoid using tenses and tags; they aren't too confusing, but they're more grammar and often aren't necessary. Also, this post is probably more appropriate in the beginner's list. On Sat, Apr 28, 2012 at 3:46 AM, Feathery Squid w= rote: > Hi all. > > I am trying to learn Lojban,=A0I find the language fascinating,=A0but am = not > having much success. =A0Most sources out there seem imply the grammar is > (relatively) simple to pick up but the vocabulary is hard to get, but I s= eem > to have the opposite reaction. I've read through L4B and a bit of CLL. = =A0Any > recommendations, tips, assistance, etc would be greatly appreciated. > > -- > You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups > "lojban" group. > To view this discussion on the web visit > https://groups.google.com/d/msg/lojban/-/1lbeoSlgj_wJ. > To post to this group, send email to lojban@googlegroups.com. > To unsubscribe from this group, send email to > lojban+unsubscribe@googlegroups.com. > For more options, visit this group at > http://groups.google.com/group/lojban?hl=3Den. --=20 mu'o mi'e .arpis. --=20 You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups "= lojban" group. To post to this group, send email to lojban@googlegroups.com. To unsubscribe from this group, send email to lojban+unsubscribe@googlegrou= ps.com. For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/lojban= ?hl=3Den.