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[2607:f8b0:4864:20::b2b]) by gmr-mx.google.com with ESMTPS id d2e1a72fcca58-71e5cc4d93fsi57036b3a.3.2024.10.13.09.51.29 for (version=TLS1_3 cipher=TLS_AES_128_GCM_SHA256 bits=128/128); Sun, 13 Oct 2024 09:51:29 -0700 (PDT) Received-SPF: pass (google.com: domain of robinleepowell@gmail.com designates 2607:f8b0:4864:20::b2b as permitted sender) client-ip=2607:f8b0:4864:20::b2b; Received: by mail-yb1-xb2b.google.com with SMTP id 3f1490d57ef6-e0875f1e9edso2876349276.1 for ; Sun, 13 Oct 2024 09:51:29 -0700 (PDT) X-Received: by 2002:a05:6902:e10:b0:e29:2ad6:5b28 with SMTP id 3f1490d57ef6-e292ad65bd3mr5777330276.26.1728838288516; Sun, 13 Oct 2024 09:51:28 -0700 (PDT) MIME-Version: 1.0 References: In-Reply-To: Reply-To: lojban@googlegroups.com From: Robin Powell Date: Sun, 13 Oct 2024 09:50:52 -0700 Message-ID: Subject: Re: [lojban] Re: Lojban and English WordNet To: lojban@googlegroups.com Content-Type: multipart/alternative; boundary="0000000000000faf0506245e888a" X-Original-Sender: robinleepowell@gmail.com X-Original-Authentication-Results: gmr-mx.google.com; dkim=pass header.i=@gmail.com header.s=20230601 header.b=Nv6jXuZi; spf=pass (google.com: domain of robinleepowell@gmail.com designates 2607:f8b0:4864:20::b2b as permitted sender) smtp.mailfrom=robinleepowell@gmail.com; dmarc=pass (p=NONE sp=QUARANTINE dis=NONE) header.from=gmail.com; dara=pass header.i=@googlegroups.com Precedence: list Mailing-list: list lojban@googlegroups.com; contact lojban+owners@googlegroups.com List-ID: X-Spam-Checked-In-Group: lojban@googlegroups.com X-Google-Group-Id: 1004133512417 List-Post: , List-Help: , List-Archive: , List-Unsubscribe: , X-Spam-Score: -1.3 (-) X-Spam_score: -1.3 X-Spam_score_int: -12 X-Spam_bar: - --0000000000000faf0506245e888a Content-Type: text/plain; charset="UTF-8" Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable jbovlaste has mappings between places of Lojban brivla and word-sense pairs in English, and jbofihe has internal data files that encode similar info: $ echo "le crida cu batci le cribe" | jbofihe -x [([batci1 (bite-r(s)):] le /the/ crida /fairy(ies)/) cu /is/does/ <> ([batci2 (bitten thing(s)):] le /the/ cribe /bear(s)/)] Back when I was active, I dreamed of making a really excellent machine translator using the jbovlaste data, because you can do it in the Lojban -> English direction without needing tons of ambiguity handling like you do in other languages. On Sun, Oct 13, 2024 at 9:14=E2=80=AFAM gleki.is...@gmail.com < gleki.is.my.name@gmail.com> wrote: > > - August - Gerold Hintz completes masters thesis, "Semantic parsing > using lojban - On the middle ground between semantic ontology and lang= uage > " > at TU Darmstadt (there is File:FN-mappings.zip > for the thesis). > > > See this and especially the zip archive. > > On Wednesday, October 9, 2024 at 11:39:13=E2=80=AFPM UTC+3 borucki...@gma= il.com > wrote: > >> How make mapping from Lojban dictionary to English Wordnet? >> I am new in Lojban, is there solved word sense disambiguation ? >> For example, word "rock" hash in Wordnet senses: >> 7 Nouns and 2 Verbs >> >> Each (or most) senses has in Lojban different word? 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jbovlaste has mappings between places of Lojban brivla and= word-sense pairs in English, and jbofihe has internal data files that enco= de similar info:

$ echo "le crida cu batci le cribe= " | jbofihe -x
[([batci1 (bite-r(s)):] le /the/ crida /fairy(ies)/)= cu /is/does/ <<batci /bit-ing/>> ([batci2 (bitten thing(s)):] = le /the/ cribe /bear(s)/)]

Back when I was act= ive, I dreamed of making a really excellent machine translator using the jb= ovlaste data, because you can do it in the Lojban -> English direction w= ithout needing tons of ambiguity handling like you do in other languages.

On Sun, Oct 13, 2024 at 9:14=E2=80=AFAM gleki.is...@gmail.com <gleki.is.my.name@gmail.com> wrote:

See this and especially = the zip archive.

On Wednesday, October 9, 2024 at 11:39:13=E2=80=AFPM UTC+3 = borucki...@gmail.= com wrote:
H= ow make mapping from Lojban dictionary to English Wordnet?
I am new in = Lojban, is there solved word sense disambiguation ?
For example, word &= quot;rock" hash in Wordnet senses:
7 Nouns and 2 Verbs

Each (or most) senses has in Lojban different word? How can be mapped?

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