Re: [bpfk] Henry is on Liza's right

[Jorge Llambías <jjllambias@gmail.com>]

On Mon, May 3, 2010 at 4:48 PM, Pierre Abbat <phma@phma.optus.nu> wrote:
> This came up during discussions of "ca'u". Suppose I'm facing north and Henry
> is facing east and Liza is south of Henry. One could try saying:
>
> la lizbet. ninmu ri'u la xenrix. ma'i ri ti'a la xenrix. ma'i mi
>
> The problem with that is that two sumti are stuffed into the "ma'i" place, and
> unless quantifiers are involved, order of sumti doesn't matter (although an
> unusual order may emphasize something).

This is what termsets are for:

   la lizbet. ninmu (nu'i) ge ri'u la xenrix. ma'i ri (nu'u) gi ti'a
la xenrix. ma'i mi (nu'u)

I think camxes allows omitting "nu'i", so you don't need termsets at all.

With "nu' i", both "nu'u" are elidable.

> I propose this solution:
>
> la lizbet. ninmu ri'u la xenrix. pe ma'i ri ti'a la xenrix. pe ma'i mi
>
> This parses in both camxes and jbofi'e, and the prepositional phrase "ma'i mi"
> attaches to "ti'a la xenrix" and not to the selbri.

It shold attach to the sumti "la xenrix.", not to the term "ti'a la xenrix".

> I don't know how to say this with a bare tense marker. "mi ga'uku pema'i le
> loldi ku zutse" doesn't parse (and I don't have a clue how to say it in
> Gahuku).

POI and GOI phrases attach to sumti, not to terms.

mu'o mi'e xorxes

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