Le lundi 20 octobre 2014 15:50:23 UTC+9, John Cowan a écrit :
Gleki Arxokuna scripsit:
> I suggest disallowing at least /^C[iu]V$/ cmavo like {kia} for some time
I suggest disallowing them forever.
I agree.
I should point out that a fu'ivla creator should think of "jiebroda test" for fu'ivla morphology if "consonant glide" is allowed for cmavo. If both cmavo and fu'ivla may include "consonant glide", "jiebroda" is not a fu'ivla (or zi'evla) but two words "jie broda". In order to make it fu'ivla form, we should modify it, for example, to "djiebroda" or "ji'ezbroda".
Actually, vlatai of jbofi'e says "jie" is not a lojban word, "jiebroda", "djiebroda" and "ji'ezbroda" are fu'ivla (stage-4), while camxes says "jie" is cmavo, "jiebroda" is two words, "djiebroda" is not a lojban word, and "ji'ezbroda" is fu'ivla.
Whether cmavo with "consonant glide" is allowed or not is very important for defining Lojban phonology. I, who have been believed that "consonant glide" is basically a kind of non-lojban sound, I have not been much careful in listening and speaking "je". If "jie" is allowed as cmavo, I should change my attitude, and be careful whether the pronunciation is "je" or "jie". Please, BPFK-members, make clear the decision on this matter.