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Re: [bpfk] Fiat Attempt #2

We finally have an experimental PA for "elliptical/unspecified number": {xo'e}. I've been saying for a while that {xo'e} would make a much better default for all of the operator-like-PA than their current hardcoded values. Perhaps with the note that in most contexts, the obvious value for {xo'e} would be either {pa} or {ro}, as previously defined. (In the same way that {ca ku} acts like {ca zo'e}, but the value of {zo'e} is usually assumed to be "now", except when it's not.)


On Tue, Jul 9, 2013 at 11:19 AM, Robin Lee Powell <rlpowell@digitalkingdom.org> wrote:

I would like to define the defaults for {za'u} and {me'i} to be
"contextually specified, usually the current value for the thing
under discussion", rather than {pa}.

Two reasons:

1.  {za'u} and {su'o} mean almost exactly the same thing as
currently defined, similarily {me'i} and {su'e}.  Freaking annoying.

2.  Everybody uses them that way anyways; see {za'u re'u}, which is
very common, and has almost no meaning without this change:
http://corpus.lojban.org/corpus/search/za'ure'u?showall=y and
http://corpus.lojban.org/corpus/search/za'u%20re'u?showall=y

In addition, it would give me a clean way to say "I need more flour
for this cake", or whatever.

-Robin

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