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Re: [bpfk] ju'o / ju'o nai





2015-01-21 4:14 GMT+03:00 selpa'i <seladwa@gmx.de>:
The ma'oste defines {ju'o} as follows:

    "attitudinal modifier: certainty - uncertainty - impossibility."

If {ju'o} is to express the certainty scale, then this definition is non-compositional. This is similar to the old {.ai nai} definition, which BPFK changed to a much more sensible one (replacing the useless {.ai nai} with a useful one that agrees with the scale the word is on).

In my opinion, the {ju'o} scale should be:

    "certainty - [mild certainty] - lack of certainty / uncertainty"

I checked the corpus and {ju'o nai} was rarely used at all, and occasionally used in the sense of current {ju'o cu'i}.

Just like old {.ainai} was completely redundant to {.ai na}, current {ju'o nai} is not much different (if at all) from {ju'o na}.

{ju'o nai} is currently a very rare word, whereas {ju'o cu'i} is extremely common, so its length is painful (this is an actual complaint by language users). With the proposed definition, we'd also get a slightly shorter replacement, so it would be killing two birds with one stone.

pe'i lo'u ju'onai li'u ka'e plixau i mu'a di'e

ju'onai xu lo tai valsi cu se pilno
Are such words used? I'm sure they are not!

i pe'i lo'u ju'o xu li'o na co'e le'u na mapti va'o

 

Any thoughts?

mi'e la selpa'i mu'o

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