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Re: [bpfk] Re: official cmavo form



On Sat, Dec 20, 2014 at 3:46 PM, Jacob Errington <nictytan@gmail.com> wrote:
My stance on this issue, which I believe is a decent compromise between the different issues raised in this thread (which I will not take the time to respond to individually) is that glides should be permitted, but be non-clustering.

What I mean by "non-clustering" is that clusters of the form /Cg/ should be forbidden. In other words, the occurrance of Cg means a syllable break must occur between the C and g.

The only thing with that is that it gives strings that look like they might be words but are not, such as "sepia" or "akua", unless Cg is considered a consonant cluster as required by brivla. If not, "sepia" would be phonotactically fine but morphologically unanalyzable. We already have some such things (namely slinku'i, isloated CCV rafsi, and a few things involving "y") but it's not nice. 
 
Also, since this proposal effectively considers /j/ and /w/ as consonants, I think I should clarify that I would be opposed to considering words such as "uitki" to be gismu, simply on the basis that expanding the gismu space should be done with more care. We may wish to consider them gismu at a later time, but that would require changing words such as "uitki" that do not deserve to be gismu. (I'm not specifically saying uitki is undeserving of a gismu. That's a separate debate, unrelated to the one at hand.) For now they should still be considered zi'evla/fu'ivla.

camxes considers them fu'ivla, which means that "brauitki" is another fu'ivla and not a lujvo. The "barda zei uitki" lujvo being "bardyuitki". 

mu'o mi'e xorxes

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