Re: [bpfk] Lojban word definitions style guidelines

Some of those guidelines would be better implemented by extending JVS db model. Also if we put variable types in brackets then nothing else should be in brackets.
Similarly, examples aren't supported by JVS 1.0 in a nice way.
Also while creating my dictionary I used "glosswords" to reflect English nouns. Using a separate field to gloss gismu as verbs would also be nice.

not a necessary distinction in Lojban

Also etymology somewhat contradicts my proposal: https://github.com/lojban/jbovlaste/issues/131 where we have etymology only in Lojban whereas for the other languages they can be generated by third party software like those that produce printable dictionaries.

2015-05-27 22:41 GMT+03:00 Ilmen <ilmen.pokebip@gmail.com>:
coi ro do

A couple of weeks ago, Naours (aka Xelan) suggested to make an official set of style guidelines for Lojban word definitions, in order to have definitions that look better and have a consistent style across the dictionary.

Those guidelines would also aim at reducing the use of slashes '/' in definitions, favoring the use of the gloss fields for listing natural language equivalent words or expressions. The rational for this is that slashes make definitions more clunky and less pretty, and the result can be awkward in languages with inflectional agreements.

Below is Naours' proposal, translated from French and slightly modified/adjusted by me (hopefully without misrepresenting the idea of its author).

mu'o mi'e la .ilmen.

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Propositions:

* Most important points:
→ Each definition must have a clear description. Slashes '/' should be avoided as much as possible, as they hinder comprehension and make definitions look awkward.
→ Each definition must have a simple description: the description is written using simple terms, even if that leads to more verbosity.
→ Each definition must have a description as generic as possible: only one term per concept, as generic as possible for encompassing the other appropriate terms.
→ Every terms corresponding to the described concept are recorded in the gloss fields.
→ The etymologies are presented along with the definition in order to retain the term and its origin.
→ The various sumti types must be specified between parentheses:
    — Proposition (bridi abstractor - lo du'u)
    — Event (action or state; event abstractor - lo nu)
    — Property/dimension (property abstractor - lo ka)
    — Quantity (quantity abstractor - lo ni)

* Points that may need to be further discussed:
→ The sumti are described using singular definite articles.

Expected results example:

balni (gimsu)
Description: x1 is a platform overhanging on facade x2
Gloss: {balcony, overhang, ledge, shelf}
Exemple 1:
(English): This is a balcony
(Lojban): ti balni
Exemple 2:
(English): The balcony of this building
(Lojban): lo balni be lo vi dinju
Etymology:
Chinese: iantai
English: balkani
Hindi: baramda
Spanish: balkon
Russian: balkon
Arabic: curfa
Notes:

Some points are rather advanced, and it will maybe be necessary to modify/improve/remove them.

mu'o mi'e la .na'urs.

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