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Paper to consider on intensionals?
Our problem is: we want to use Any-x in contexts where there is no
embedded clause in Lojban. So in "I want to see a doctor, any doctor",
you have {lenu}, hence: {mi djica lenu su'o da poi mikce zo'u: mi viska
da}. But when you look for something, there's no {lenu} there. Thence,
we made the x2 of sisku be leka.
So sisku is the kind of predicate that causes us problem: it's
intensional, but its x2 is supposed to be an entity, not a predication.
So where's the prenex go?
http://www.tulane.edu/~forbes/pdf_files/ITV_Lims.pdf is a paper on
such predicates in English, that I found when I googled for listings of
intensional predicates.
The author wants to put prenexes anywhere the hell he pleases,
including mid-sentence. He says even old man Montague ended up doing
so. The Lojban grammar is fixed, though, so we can't do that.
So he's considering the alternative --- that underlyingly such preds do
have clausal complements after all. Just as we have done for sisku. He
terms this propositionalism, and dates it from Quine. He thinks
propositionalism is crap.
He has a list of intensional transitives that maybe surprising; they
surprised me:
prefer, require, has an urge for, longs for
look for, seek, hunt, rummage about for
sketch, caricature, picture, write about, imagine (because you can
describe imaginary things)
hate, admire, idolize, worship (this one, I admit, I don't get)
He accepts that "want X" is propositionalistic, in that it can be
paraphrased as "want to have X", and that's why "Walter wants a bigger
boat tomorrow" is ambiguous: {ca le bavlamdei} can attach to the inner
clause or the outer:
la .ualter djica lenu su'o da poi bramau bloti zo'u: .ubu ponse da ca
le bavlamdei
la .ualter djica ledu'u su'o da poi bramau bloti zo'u: .ubu ponse da
kei ca le bavlamdei
He contends that seeking, depiction and evaluation are not discernably
propositional in English.
His evidence is syntactic. I don't give a turd about syntax, as you
know. In fact, his evidence seems singularly underwhelming to me
applied to Lojban. And even inside English. e.g. he thinks it's odd to
say "Walter is seeking a camera by noon", meaning that when he wants it
by as opposed to that's when he's starting the search by (so you can't
attach a separate time to the outer bridi and the inner bridi, "seek
*to find a camera by noon*". Eh, bullshit; that makes perfect sense to
me.
The imagining verbs are harder to me to work out, and I agree that
even if "I imagine X" is "I imagine X to exist, "I write about X" isn't
necessarily "I write about X existing". He then dismisses the prospect
of imagining {lenu xy co'e}, though I think he's over-hasty.
With evaluation, propositionalists usually claim they're extensional,
not intensional, rather than that they're propositional. The author
claims they're intensional, and not propositional. He claims 'fear'
must be intensional, since fearing Clark Kent and fearing Superman are
distinct states; he dismisses as unmotivated the counterargument that
there is a propositional claim here as well, "Lex Luthor believes that
he fears Superman"; but I don't see why it's unmotivated, since we're
relying on what Lex knows about the world (and has lack of awareness of
Supe's identity) anyway. The example that, if Allah = Jehovah, and a
Muslim never goes into a synagogue, then there's no extension and no
proposition, is even more bogus: If Allah = Jehovah, then the Muslim
*is* worshipping Jehovah; she just doesn't realise it --- and realising
it is itself a proposition that's part of the story.
And in particular, and others as fancy strikes, what do you make of it?
And can Lojban cope with all four classes of preds talking ce'u?
--
Dr Nick Nicholas, French & Italian, Uni. Melb.
nickn@unimelb.edu.au
http://www.opoudjis.net
"Must I, then, be the only one to be beheaded now?" "Why, did you want
everybody to be beheaded for your consolation?" Epictetus, Discourses
1.1.