Re: [jboske] individuation and masses (was: RE: mass, group,

[John Cowan <cowan@ccil.org>]

Invent Yourself scripsit:

> It depends on what you mean by "mass". In an effort to clarify the
> terminology, we pretty much agree to use "mass" to refer to the
> mass-gadri, and to use "collective" and "substance" for the two distinct
> concepts which have been mistakenly blurred together as the meaning of the
> mass-gadri.

Ah. But I absolutely disagree that that was a mistake. It is the
very essence of Lo??anic thinking about masses that Water, piro lei djacu,
is exactly the same as Monkey, piro lei smani. They are not arbitrarily
divided into "substance" and "collective" based on English/SAE thinking.
(I am avoiding "Mr." here, even though JCB and I have used it, because
it seems to invoke confusion.)

If you can say "There is rice scattered over the floor", you can equally
well say "There is sailor scattered over the deck", pisu'o loi blosazri.

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