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The word order coup
The word order coup that Bob asks about is the realisation that
ro lo mikce cu tavla pa lo prenu
is different from
pa lo prenu cu se tavla ro lo mikce
because their intrinsic prenexes are different: AxEy vs. EyAx
xod and Robin had assumed that se-conversion is always always always
meaning-preserving, so the second sentence would still mean each doctor
talks to a person (not necessarily the same). xod found this painful
enough, I gather, that he now thinks he might as well relearn all of
Lojban.
If you disagree on this take on how prenexes work, please, let's not
get into that right now.
--
Edarh oni oroumene NICK NICHOLAS PhD, French/Italian,
kouraste na mpa"inei, University of Melbourne, Australia
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--- Dhmhtzh Xouph, _O gerou-Kwstagkh_ (Tsakwniko poihma)