On Sat, Dec 28, 2002 at 06:34:03PM -0000, And Rosta wrote:
> Jordan:
> > On Sat, Dec 28, 2002 at 11:58:23AM -0500, John Cowan wrote:
> > > Nick Nicholas scripsit:
> > [...]
> > > > ... Remind me why {mi djica loi mikce} was rejected as a general
> > > > solution? Because whatever it was sinks this too, I think..
> > >
> > > Because you are not willing to settle for sundry unattached doctor parts
> > > IOW, some Doctor-Substance will not do
> >
> > Grice fixes that, though. If I wanted doctor parts I'd say mi djica
> > tu'a lo pagbu be lo mikce
>
> All the same, the topic of this bit of discussion is how to unambiguously
> express the notion of Collective (i.e. without recourse to Grice). Grice
> is like carpet bombing -- hugely powerful but you can never be absolutely
> sure of hitting a precise target.
Well, if there's some question as to whether I would settle for
doctor parts (which there probably wouldn't be), I'd say
mi djica loi mikce .i mulno mikce po'o .i loi pagbu be lo
mikce naku banzu tu'a mi ca
Or even
mi djica loi mikce poi jai mulno
We *should* try to keep this stuff grounded in reality---I think
Grice is certainly sufficent here. In real conversation there's
no reason to assume someone would settle for doctor parts unless
they're talking about pagbu stuff.
--
Jordan DeLong - fracture@allusion.net
lu zo'o loi censa bakni cu terzba le zaltapla poi xagrai li'u
sei la mark. tuen. cusku
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