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Re: Anything but tautologies (was: Re: [jboske] Re: [lojban] tautologies

On Thu, 14 Feb 2002, Jorge Llambias wrote:

> la xod cusku di'e
> >Well, I wasn't using "1" as an analog for "f", but as a polynomial.
> >In other words, not its name, but its expression. So I don't see how the
> >confusion concerning f(x) is relevant.
> The expression "x^2+x+1" is sometimes used to refer to the polynomial,
> and other times to refer to the value that the polynomial takes on
> for a given value in its domain. When we write f(x)=x^2+x+1, we
> mean sometimes that the function f(x) is the funtion x^2+x+1,
> and sometimes we mean that the value f(x) is equal to the value
> x^2+x+1. In other words, we use the same expression to refer to
> {lo te fancu} and to {lo ve fancu}. You are doing the same with
> {li pa}. It's a very widespread practice in mathematics, and it
> hardly ever leads to confusion, but it is the type of thing that
> Lojban takes pride in differentiating.

Yet in this case, I don't yet see how I could express the function "1" as
distinct from the value "1". Do you?

The tao that can be tar(1)ed
is not the entire Tao.
The path that can be specified
is not the Full Path.