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RE: [jboske] factivity of nu
At 02:08 PM 1/10/03 +0000, And Rosta wrote:
John:
> Nick the Weasel asserts that while du'u is not factive ("it [must] have a
> predicate and arguments, [no more]"), nu is factive ("what it describes
> truly happens in the world")
>
> I have (consistently, I think) asserted both within and outwith CLL that
> the latter is untrue. The event of Nixon being elected President in '68
> is no more and no less an event than the event of McGovern being
elected etc.,
> even though the former cu fasnu and the latter, on the contrary, na fasnu
Is the detective Sherlock Holmes less of a detective than the detective
Alan Pinkerton [or some other RL detective]?
I believe that Lojban should not have embedded in its design either a yes
or a no answer to that question. The answer to that question is a
hopefully unnecessary metaphysical assumption.
lojbab
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