RE: [jboske] factivity of nu

[Robert LeChevalier <lojbab@lojban.org>]

At 03:13 PM 1/11/03 -0500, Invent Yourself wrote:
> > So actually, yes McGovern was a ka'e, but Sherlock Holmes isn't
> > and not all johannine nu are ka'e fasnu.
>
> No good! There is only one reality, all others are (equally) unreal.
> President McGovern, Irish Socrates, and the one where I drank hot
> chocolate last night are all equally false. The Verification Principle
> shows this.

President McGovern doesn't fit since the guy is still alive and thus 
theoretically still a potential President, so he is still ka'e.

The question is what happens when a potential exists, but is not realized 
and thus ceases to exist, such as your drinking of hot chocolate. Last 
night it was ka'e; now it no longer is ka'e. And then there is the 
question of whether And Rosta drank hot chocolate last night, which was 
certainly ka'e at the time, and from out point of view lacking explicit 
knowledge remains something that ka'e jetnu, but whether the potential is 
realized/realizable has been overcome by events so it may not be ka'e jetnu 
for And.

lojbab

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