Re: Counting Nick

["Nick Nicholas <opoudjis@optushome.com.au>" <opoudjis@optushome.com.au>]

--- In jboske@yahoogroups.com, "And Rosta" <a.rosta@l...> wrote:
> In my ontology, Nick is what I have been calling Substance.
> In Nick's terms, he is, I think, Atom rather than Stuff. 

Eeyup.

> But how many Nick are there? What would it be like for 
> there to be, say, three Nick, and by what criteria would
> they count as Nick? Maybe if I could answer that question,
> I would decide that there are three Nick, or more likely
> that there are ci'ipa Nick. But when I think of Nick,
> am I really quantifying over ci'ipa moments of Nick? 
> Intuitively it doesn't feel like I am. But I'm quite
> happy to say that su'o da, a Bit of Spacetime, is Nick.

Say it, And, say it. Nick is unquantified, and so is Gold.

> So all in all, I feel that the cardinality of Nick is
> Mr Number (or perhaps Mr Za'uno, because I CAN tell the
> difference between Nick and no Nick), and the same goes for, 
> say, gold. If I look at that which is gold, it is similarly 
> impossible to count it. 
> 
> I can count moments of Nick and bits of gold, but I
> can't count Nick or gold.

Bingo. Bingo Bingo Bingo. Nick is a Kind of Atom, and gold is a Kind of Stuff.

We have our solution!