RE: [jboske] Lojbab on tu'o (was: RE: RE: Nick on propositionalism &c

[Robert LeChevalier <lojbab@lojban.org>]

At 12:43 AM 1/13/03 +0000, And Rosta wrote:
> > If A is true if zo'e is interpreted as "3", then why do we want 
> anything else?
> >
> > zo'e means "some value that makes the sentence true"
>
> Surely not! Else every sentence with an ellipsis would be true by
> definition!

Of course. We presume that pragmatically people say things they want to 
communicate as being true.

> > zi'o is appropriate
> > if no value makes sense at all as in Cowan's example of an
> > untranslatable joke
>
> That's not really what zi'o means, but I don't want to get into
> a discussion about this now. I'm not sure whether you know what
> it means and just described it poorly: you said that zi'o catra
> is meaningless to you, which isn't a good sign.

zi'o means what CLL and the cmavo list say it means until/unless the byfy 
changes it. I'll be satisfied if Cowan (or someone else) gives me a 
practical example of when one would say zi'o catra, and it would indeed 
have something to do with catra and not merely morsi binxo

lojbab

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