Re: [jboske] Transfinites

[John Cowan <cowan@ccil.org>]

Robert LeChevalier scripsit:

> I disagree. zi'o applies when there is no value that fills in the place, 
> not merely when it is undesirable to fill in the place, but a correct value 
> does exist. The latter is clearly part of zo'e and therefore not zi'o 
> (because they are mutually exclusive by the discussion of CLL).

Not so. With zo'e, a definite value exists in the speaker's mind but is
not being expressed, and "FA ma" (for some value of FA) is a reasonable
question. With zi'o, a definite value may or may not exist.
I declare this to be true by founder intent (maybe there should be an
evidential for this).

> How do you count the points of a line, which have no boundaries and no 
> fixed size, and you cannot see them? You define them in a way such that 
> their count has meaning and then try to count them. In the case of points, 
> you define the concept of infinitesimals, and the count is some transfinite 
> number (some kind of ci'i - there is more than one kind)

You can't *count* the points on a line: they cannot be put in 1-1 correspondence
with the natural numbers. You can assign a real number to each point, but
that is not counting them, since the real numbers are themselves uncountable.

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