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Re: [jboske] Transfinites
At 10:13 AM 1/13/03 -0500, Invent Yourself wrote:
On Mon, 13 Jan 2003, John Cowan wrote:
> Robert LeChevalier scripsit:
>
> > This again is incompatible with tu'o meaning mo'ezi'o, which requires
that
> > there be NO number.
>
> Not what zi'o means, but a common error that I strive to eradicate.
>
> A zi'o sumti does not mean that no value *can* be expressed, but that
> the relationship is being constrained ("projected" in relational algebra)
> to suppress it. Thus "klama fo zi'o" does not necessarily involve
teleportation
> (where there is no route), but it doesn't exclude it either. So both
> teleportation and non-teleportation events are included in klama fo zi'o,
> but only non-teleportation is involved in klama without fo zi'o.
I once described the difference as
dargu noda noda
a circular road
dargu zi'o zi'o
a parking lot
But Cowan's explanation of klama fo zi'o requires that dargu zi'o zi'o ALSO
encompass a circular road, as well as a normal road because it doesn't
exclude events with a value.
So lojbab still see two contradictory definitions.
lojbab
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