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[jbovlaste] Two awkward lujvo
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- Subject: [jbovlaste] Two awkward lujvo
- From: "A. PIEKARSKI" <totus@rogers.com>
- Date: Mon, 22 Mar 2010 07:20:33 -0700 (PDT)
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coi ro do
Here is a proposal for lujvo that are alternatives to 'awkward'
lujvo currently in jbovlaste.
1) jdikyplini (dwarf planet).
Until recently, planets beyond Neptune (i.e. Pluto and Eris) were
{plini} like all the others, and asteroids were {cmaplini} or
{plinycma}. Since Pluto and Eris have been downgraded
by the International Astronomical Union to a new non-planet category:
'dwarf planets', a new lujvo would be useful. {cmaplini/plinycma}
would be the obvious name - if it were not already used for 'asteroid'.
I see two options: either redefine {cmaplini/plinycma} to mean 'dwarf
planet or create a new lujvo. I'm reluctant to suggest the redefinition
of {cmaplini/plinycma } - the old one has been in use for some time,
so I propose {jdikyplini} for 'dwarf planet'. The implied reduction refers
is a reduction to their importance.
jdikyplini: j1is a dwarf planet revolving around j2with characteristics j3, orbital parameters j4.
2)snukarni ([shared journal]/blog)
Yes, there is a lujvo {kibykarni} already in jbovlaste
that means 'blog'. However, it's based on an experimental
gismu. There are two problems with that;
- Experimental gismu should be 'tested in the marketplace'
for acceptability etc before becoming official. If the
experimenatal gismu fails, so will the derived chain of lujvo
that are based on it. Clearly, lujvo based on experimental
lujvo should be avoided if there is reasonable alternative based
on baselined gismu.
- Testing of lujvo based on experimental gismu only makes sense if
it is involves a comparison with an alternative lujvo based on
baselined gismu. Which is better? So there has to be an
alternative and, right now, there isn't one.
So I propose:
snukarni: k1 is a [shared journal]/blog about topic/subject k2=c2
published/administered by k3 for participants/audience k4=c1
I would think there is generally no need to specify that the blog
is internet-based, but if there is, you can always use
{snukarni tecu'u lo mujyseltcana}.
Comments please.
totus