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[lojban-beginners] Re: Quick questions



On 12/15/06, Matt Arnold <matt.mattarn@gmail.com> wrote:
On the IRC channel, we were recently discussing that. I suggested that
if {pi} is completely universal, then isn't it part of the definition
of {si'e}? And that therefore {pi} never needs to be included because
it would be redundant?

{pi} would not be used if you use {fi'u} or {ce'i}:

re fi'u ci si'e: "x1 is two thirds of x2"
vo no ce'i si'e: "x1 is 40% of x2"

And with numbers, {pi mu si'e} is not the same as {pi no mu si'e},
whereas {mu} and {no mu} are the same.

It could be said that {pi} is redundant with {su'o}, {so'u}, {so'o}, {so'i},
{so'e}, {so'a}, and {ro}, but not universally.

mu'o mi'e xorxes