[lojban-beginners] Re: Lujvo and Fu'ivla

["Jorge Llambías" <jjllambias@gmail.com>]

On 7/31/07, Pierre Abbat <phma@phma.optus.nu> wrote:
> On Monday 30 July 2007 21:05, Velaki@aol.com wrote:
> > Is it possible to absorb a fu'ivla into a lujvo?
>
> Yes, according to the proposals for making fu'ivla rafsi (mine and Jorge's
> differ somewhat, and the details aren't settled yet).

And there's always {zei} as a last resort.

> A few examples using my proposal:

I give also my proposed forms:

> cange (barn) + glauka (owl) = cagyglauka.

cagyglauka

> me'andi (henna) + skari (color) = me'andyska.

me'andi'yska

> skalduna (Basque) + ninmu (woman) = can't do that, skalduna has no rafsi. {mi
> skaldunyni'u} is one word, {miskaldunyni'u}, meaning something like "woman
> whose eyes are equal to famous".

skalduna'yni'u

> malgaci (Malagasy) + smani (monkey) != malgacysmani, that's mabla + gapci +
> smani. So {malgaci} has no rafsi.

malgaci'ysmani

> mikri (micro) + enri (henry) = miky'enri (this wasn't my idea but I agree with
> it).

miky'enri

> gurnrtefi (teff) + nanba (bread) = gurnrtefynanba. The y-hyphen is required
> even though it is not in lujvo made from gismu such as {kafnanba}.

gurnrtefi'ynanba

The advantage of Pierre's proposal is that it sometimes saves a syllable,
the advantage of mine is that it works for all fu'ivla. The two proposals are
compatible with one another, so we could in this case have our cake and
eat it too if we want.

mu'o mi'e xorxes