[lojban-beginners] Re: le vinji vs lo vinji

["Vid Sintef" <picos.picos@gmail.com>]

On 8/14/07, Jorge Llambías <jjllambias@gmail.com> wrote:
> No, the extended sense should fit the place structure. That's why
> I have problems with the overspecific place structures given to
> some gismu.

Won't {zi'o} help?

> I'm not sure what kind of ride you have in mind, but it might be:
>
>    fi'i do'u ko se vinji ti lo banli vraga

I'm having some difficulty in elaborating my point in English. I'll
take another example. Suppose a child has come upon this spot:
http://www.theage.com.au/ffximage/2006/02/17/disneyland_wideweb__470x349,0.jpg
The child says: {.uacai lo gerku .e lo datka .e lo smacu cu kakne le
nu remna dansu be lo zgike}. His utterance is not specifically
addressing the three characters (le/la gerku, le/la datka, le/la
smacu) he is looking at; rather he wants to mean that "at least one of
all" (su'o lo ro) dogs and ducks and mouses in general can dance like
humans do. But in reality it is not {lo gerku .e lo datka .e lo smacu}
which are dancing there; it's humans themselves (right?). The child
adds: {xu go'i}. Now what should his parents answer to that innocent
question?

mu'o mi'e vid