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[lojban-beginners] Re: yet more beginner questions
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- Subject: [lojban-beginners] Re: yet more beginner questions
- From: "Matt Arnold" <matt.mattarn@gmail.com>
- Date: Thu, 11 Oct 2007 07:11:10 -0400
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On 10/11/07, Yoav Nir <yoav.nir@gmail.com> wrote:
> Hi.
>
> I'm new to studying lojban, and am working my way through "Lojban for
> beginners"
>
> I have a few questions already.
>
> First, is how to spell my name. I know the English spelling doesn't give a
> lot of clues (it's a Hebrew name). It's pronounced as two syllables, the
> first is like "Yo" in yonder, the second "av" as in the first syllable of
> "avril" in Spanish. I'm guessing that ioav won't cut it because of the three
> consecutive vowels, so should it be io,av. Also am I supposed to capitalize
> the second syllable (io,AV) to show where the stress is every time, or is
> that optional?
My American pronunciation of "yonder" has the lojban "a" in the first
syllable. Click the Sound Sample link to hear it:
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Open_front_unrounded_vowel
Lojban "o" is pronounced like this sound sample:
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Open-mid_back_rounded_vowel
> Second, I've read that lojban names have to end in a consonant, so if they
> don't, we add one. My question is, do we pronounce the 's' in la meiris ?
Yes. There are no silent characters in Lojban. Lojbanization of a name
usually changes the pronunciation, not just the spelling.
> Third, I've seen that the apostrophe is used to make an 'h' sound, whereas
> the h character is not used. Why is that? Why didn't the inventors of
> lojban (or does it date back to loglan?) simply use an h for the h sound?
Because they wanted it to be immediately clear that this
sound/character set served a special morphological seperating function
similar to punctuation, separating vowel pairs. It is not permissable
to use outside that function. The morphological rules give permissable
sequences of C V ' (consonant, vowel, "h" sound). Had it been an "h"
character, it would not have been immediately visible that it is
considered neither a consonant or a vowel for purposes of the rules.
> That's it for now. I'm sure I'll have more questions as I go on.
>
> mi'e io,AV
>
Thanks for your questions! Keep them coming.
-Eppcott