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[lojban-beginners] Re: some questions



Matt Arnold wrote:
On 10/20/07, Jared Angell <angell.jared@gmail.com> wrote:
Also...isn't keeping track of the place structures for every single word is
Lojban damn near impossible????

Difficult perhaps, for some. But it has been proven to be possible.
Most gismu follow a predictable place-structure pattern so they don't
have to all be memorized.

I also think that people approach learning the place structures as a memorization task, and that is extremely unnatural from a language learning point of view.

Isn't keeping track of the place structures for every single word is
English damn near impossible????

When you learned English, as a child, you learned all the place structures of English, despite their irregularities. By that, I mean that you learned for each verb what sort of thing goes in the subject, which verbs take direct objects and indirect objects, and what sorts of objects are permissible in each. You also learned for each verb what prepositional phrases make sense with that verb, and what the meaning of those prepositional phrases are in that context.

People don't notice the ambiguity of English prepositions, but look at some examples - you learned which to use where. As a child, and without really thinking about it.

by the way
walked by the bookstore
by the time I get to Phoenix

read it in the newspaper
read it in the bookstore
looked in the mirror

barrel of monkeys
friend of mine
gallon of gas

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