[lojban-beginners] Re: usefulness

["Matt Arnold" <matt.mattarn@gmail.com>]

On 10/25/07, Carlos Gabriel Quiroz <quirozom@gmail.com> wrote:
> Hello, everyone.
>
> *cough cough* (throat cleared)
>
> So, I´m new to the language, found out about it three months ago, I´ve only
> posted once or twice in this group, I read almost none of the mails anyone
> sends, and know about 10 words in Lojban.
>
> That said, I plan to learn Lojban as much as I can, as deep as I can, simply
> because I´m curious about if it lives up to the usefulness it seems to have
> and because if it does, than I´d like to teach it to others so we can share
> its benefits.
>
> Jared, I applaud your initiative to express your concerns and wishes. Though
> not perfect, it is quite admirable that you did, since you express your
> perspective and in turn other members of the community can share their own
> perspectives and experience back. Now, I gotta say that after reading the
> reply emails I am quite happy about the amount of intelligent internet users
> here, which is no coincidence. I just might read the group emails more
> often. My favorite reply was Robert´s (I have no idea who you are, I guess
> I´ll eventually google your background check), since it was sound and you
> throw back counter-arguments the same way I do: breaking everything down and
> commenting one by one, no matter how long it takes. Smart, clean, to the
> point. I´m glad people like you are behind Lojban and contribute to this
> group. I´m happier knowing that people like you are still around.
>
>
> Jared, all I gotta say is, use Lojban as you please. There is no one
> "definite" way to how any language should grow. It is neither urgent or
> useful to translate texts right now. Lojban-ists don´t have to get
> "authority recognition" or acknowledgment from any mainstream community to
> fulfill its destiny. Why? Because it doesn´t have one. A language is just a
> language. People like it, they use it. People wanna speak it with other
> people, they teach it. It is ok if it is used only for jokes, there is no
> shame or dishonor in it. Lojban doesn´t have to serve a "higher" purpose. It
> doesn´t have to be spoken by millions. It doesn´t have to be ( fill in the
> blank). Lojban does not have to be a crusade. Don´t fret over Lojban dieing,
> keep doing what you are doing (speaking your mind, doing what you can to
> keep Lojban alive), but there´s no point in panicking. If after all has been
> done, all has been tried, one day there are no speakers alive... well... at
> least we´ll have done our best. Quite frankly... I don´t think there will be
> a funeral. I think Lojban will stay alive, even if only by a small
> community. And that´s ok. I can live with that. And so can Lojban.
>
> And, in case anyone cares, once I learn enough Lojban, I expect to
> definitely love it enough to teach it to others. And when that happens, I
> will do my share in teaching it to as many people I can get interested.
>
> BTW, if anyone has any good studying material, please be so kind to share
> with me.
>
>
>
> --
> Carlos Gabriel Quiroz Sánchez
> Tel: (+52) (81) 83-00-36-24
> Cel: 044-81-12-75-9069
> MSN: quirozom@gmail.com
>
> "Love, Truth, Hope, Justice, Determination, Peace, Honor, and Trust.
> Ideals and principles which I have resolved to live by the rest of my life."
> Carlos Gabriel
>
> "We can´t solve problems by using the same kind of thinking we used when we
> created them."
> Albert Einstein


Thank you, Carlos, for your sensible and productive statements. Thank
you also for joining the mailing list. Thanks most of all for starting
down the path of Lojban.

-Eppcott

P.S. In response to your statement that you don't know who Robert is:
Bob and his wife created and founded Lojban.