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[lojban-beginners] Re: Quick Reference Guide for language words



On 10/28/07, Pierre Abbat <phma@phma.optus.nu> wrote:
> On Saturday 27 October 2007 19:58, Joel Shellman wrote:
>
> > > bridi: sentence made of arguments connected by a relationship
> >
> > I'd be a little concerned about using "sentence" flat out... it's not
> > necessarily the same. In logic terms, a bridi is a predicate, right?

In logic terms, a bridi is a _proposition_, the predicate is the selbri.
For example, here is a dictionary defintion of "predicate":

  (Logic) That part of a proposition that is affirmed or denied about the
  subject. For example, in the proposition "We are mortal", "mortal" is
  the predicate.

But as is often the case, the Lojban terminology is a bit muddled.

> "predicate", as the term is used in English grammar (and IE grammar in
> general), is {brirebla}, not {bridi}.

Yes, and as used in logic it is {selbri}. Only Lojban seems to use "predicate"
for whole propositions.

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