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[lojban-beginners] Re: Strange modals



di'o would probably mean "with locally-confined thing"... probably not as useful.

On Dec 1, 2007 10:49 AM, A. PIEKARSKI <totus@rogers.com > wrote:
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From: Jorge Llambías <jjllambias@gmail.com>
To: lojban-beginners@lojban.org
Sent: Friday, November 30, 2007 6:35:33 PM
Subject: [lojban-beginners] Re: Strange modals

On Nov 29, 2007 12:33 PM, A. PIEKARSKI < totus@rogers.com> wrote:
>  I must admit I still have problems knowing when to use {di'o} and when to use {tu'i}.

The general way to indicate a location is {bu'u}, which only indicates
location.
{sedi'o} indicates location+confinement. {tu'i} indicates location+permanence.
In cases of location+permaence+confinement both {sedi'o} and {tu'i} may
apply, and which one to use may depend on what you want to emphasize more.

zvati: x1 is located in x2.
se stuzi: x1 is permanently located in x2.
diklo: x1 is located in x2 and nowhere else within x3.

I may now be clearer on {sedio} and {tu'i} but am even more fuzzy on the distinction between {di'o} and {se di'o}.  Both seem to mean the same thing, at least sometimes.  Is that so?

mu'o mi'e andrus