[lojban-beginners] Re: How do you make a rule?

[Isen hand <isenhand@yahoo.co.uk>]

<<although it is not clear that the
property itself is the rule.>>



The x3 place of moi does state, according to the definition of
moi, that it is a rule so we don’t have to assume that. We could just say “size”
and know that the set is ordered by size?  We could then add “smallest first” or “largest
first” to specify the rule in more detail?




----- Original Message ----
From: Jorge Llambías <jjllambias@gmail.com>
To: lojban-beginners@lojban.org
Sent: Tuesday, 29 January, 2008 1:48:27 PM
Subject: [lojban-beginners] Re: How do you make a rule?

On 1/29/08, Penguino <spheniscine@gmail.com> wrote:
> On Jan 29, 2008 3:46 PM, Isen hand <isenhand@yahoo.co.uk> wrote:
>
> > X3 of moi is a rule. How do you make a rule? If I want to
> > say something like this is the 2nd largest hat that I have how
 would
> > I express the rule "larger than" if I used moi?
>
> I believe [ka] works here: remoi fi le ka [ce'u] barda (second in
> bigness/second biggest)

That works under the assumptions that the things x2 are ordered
by the amount of property x3 they have, and from most to least.
Then x1 is the one that falls in the second place of that ordering.
Both assumptions "amount of property" and "from most to least"
seem to be natural enough, although it is not clear that the
property itself is the rule.

Giving an explicit rule would probably be something more
complicated, something like "where the biggest one is first,
and the (n+1)th is the biggest of those that remain after
assigning n positions."

mu'o mi'e xorxes








	
	
		
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