[lojban-beginners] Re: tense/modal connective

["Vid Sintef" <picos.picos@gmail.com>]

On Sun, Apr 20, 2008 at 6:28 PM, Jorge Llambías <jjllambias@gmail.com> wrote:
>
> On Sun, Apr 20, 2008 at 1:19 PM, Pierre Abbat <phma@phma.optus.nu> wrote:
>  > On Sunday 20 April 2008 11:37, Vid Sintef wrote:
>  > > Can a pair of tenses/modals be connected in this way:
>  > >
>  > > mi le gusta vizo'a .enai mo'ine'i klama
>  >
>  > vizo'a jenai mo'ine'i ma? Do you mean "I went by the restaurant but didn't go
>  > in", or "I passed by it, but didn't go in, on the way to the restaurant"?
>
>  Does {mo'i ne'i} require actually going in, or just movement inwards?
>  It would seem that {zo'a} excludes {mo'i ne'i} anyway, as they are
>  incompatible directions.
>
>
>
>  mu'o mi'e xorxes

Actually, I made the example as a rough paraphrase of a sentence from
komfo,amonan's blog:
{mi'a kaskla la'o zoi McNally Robinson zoi noi ke'a ckuzai zi'e noi mi
pu so'i roi zo'a ke'a cu cadzu gi'e no roi vitke ke'a}.
I found the second noi clause a bit wordy. As an exercise then I
attempted to shorten it by combining {cadzu} with {vitke} while
differentiating the tenses, which led me to the idea of sequencing
{zo'a [ke'a]} and {mo'ine'i [ke'a]}. Because {ke'a} is a sumti I
thought the connective between the tenses would be ek (which has
turned out to be jek). As for {zo'a}, I thought I might as well
indicate that the distance was neither {vu} nor {va}, so I added {vi}.


mu'o mie tijlan