[lojban-beginners] Re: welcome and question about brivla recognizing

["Jorge Llambías" <jjllambias@gmail.com>]

On Sun, Jul 20, 2008 at 4:54 AM, Mateusz Grotek
<unoduetre@poczta.onet.pl> wrote:
> Hello.
> I'm new to lojban, recently started reading CLL, but have some questions
> about brivla recognition from speech stream.
> What is exact algorithm for doing it? I tried to create one, but it looks
> like i have to count letters before stress, what i don't wanna do. Is it
> really needed? (Because of something what is called "tosmabru failure" in
> book). And point 5b) in draft look for me somehow wrong, but  maybe it's my
> fault. Could you explain it to me please?

You can find the (an) algorithm here:
< http://www.lojban.org/tiki/tiki-index.php?page=BPFK%20Section%3A%20PEG%20Morphology%20Algorithm>

Basically it works as follows:

(1) If the speech stream that you are considering (from the start up
to the first pause)
contains some non-Lojban phoneme or an impermissibe cluster then it is
a non-Lojban
word.

(2) Otherwise, if it ends with a consonant, it is a cmevla.

(3) Otherwise, if it starts with something that could be a cmavo, and
what remains
is a possible word or words, that first part is indeed a cmavo.
(That's for example
what happens with "tosmabru", "to" is a cmavo because "smabru" is a possible
word.) But there is one exception here: if it starts with CVCy and it
is a lujvo, then
CV cannot be a cmavo (so "tosymabru" is not "to sy mabru").

(4) Otherwise, unless it is a "slinku'i", it is a brivla. A "slinku'i"
consists of a
consonant followed by a string of rafsi. A slinku'i is also a non-Lojban word.

Unfortunately, it is not possible to characterize brivla without
recourse to rafsi.
Both the slinku'i rule, and the tosymabru rule make use of rafsi strings.

mu'o mi'e xorxes