[lojban-beginners] Re: Hello, and owning things..

[Mark <mark@antelope.nildram.co.uk>]

Hello Matt,

Thursday, July 31, 2008, 6:04:59 PM, you wrote:

MA> On Thu, Jul 31, 2008 at 12:44 PM, Mark
MA> <mark@antelope.nildram.co.uk> wrote:
>> Hi Matt,
>>
>> Thanks for your reply!
>>
>> I guess what confused me on this was the use of "lo mi karce cu va
>> zvati" for "my car is there", in Everyday Lojban Lesson 1.  I can't
>> see why this is "lo" and not "le" - surely the thing that's over there
>> is a particular car of his that he's thinking of.

MA> That was before xorlo. xorlo is the proposal to change the meaning of le and lo.

ACK! As if I wasn't already confused enough... is Lojban For Beginners
pre-xorlo, too?

I just looked at the page on using xorlo and it seemed to match what I
thought anyway (apart from the "lo mu bakni means there are only five
cows is the universe" thing).  But that page also emphasised something
that I wondered about to - if I say "le melbi ninmu" it means a woman
that I'm thinking of, who I think is beautiful (and is a woman!), but
potentially no-one else does.  Because there is no universally agreed
standard of beauty, is it illegal to say "lo melbi ninmu"?  I know
that melbi can take the "standard of beauty" as an argument but
inserting that into "lo melbi ninmu" would require a relative clase
(right?)

-- 
Best regards,
 Mark                            mailto:mark@antelope.nildram.co.uk