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[lojban-beginners] Lo and le...(oh*sigh*)



Well I guess lotsa people find this difficult....

Lo and le...(oh*sigh*)
I find the difference hard to grasp sofar.


ci le gerku   = 3 of the dogs    (or 3 of the dogs which I'm going to call dogs)
ci lo gerku   = 3 dogs    (or 3 of the dogs which are really dogs)

How then would you translate: (let's assume i have a pack of 12 dogs and i tell my girlfriend: )
3 of the dogs were ill last night

ci le gerku.... would be the litteral translation
But I KNOW they REALLY are dogs! so.... ci lo gerku?

Insights anyone?
Danke schön,
T.