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[lojban-beginners] Re: What is love?
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- Subject: [lojban-beginners] Re: What is love?
- From: Jorge Llambías <jjllambias@gmail.com>
- Date: Sat, 24 Jan 2009 20:14:50 -0300
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On 1/24/09, MorphemeAddict@wmconnect.com <MorphemeAddict@wmconnect.com> wrote:
>
> My impression was that "na'e" implies that something is still done, just not
> what's negated.
That would be the most reasonable way to understand it. "na'e broda"
requires something other than broda, among all the options. Normally,
the options will be taken to be such that all the other options are
incompatible with broda, and so doing anything else will exclude doing
broda.
> Here "na'e" would mean that Language still has license to do
> something to you, just not hurt you.
To comply with the "ko", it would in fact be required to do something
else, not just licensed. But logically, you are only asking it to do
something, not to refrain from doing anything else.
> There is no possibility of "in addition to" hurting you.
"cinba", "kissing", is an example of non-hurting. If it kisses you,
then it is complying, it is other-than-hurting you. And that's true
whether or not it is also hurting you. Logically, it can both hurt you
and other-than-hurt you at the same time. But I agree that normally
when one says "na'e broda" one intends something incompatible with
broda.
mu'o mi'e xorxes