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[lojban-beginners] Re: UI & gismu
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- Subject: [lojban-beginners] Re: UI & gismu
- From: Jorge Llambías <jjllambias@gmail.com>
- Date: Wed, 11 Feb 2009 13:58:01 -0300
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Not all of those gismu have an x1 for the speaker. It would be more
consistent to make them all fit the same pattern, for example:
lo cusku cu pilno zo VV lo nu jarco lo ka ce'u XXXXX
The speaker uses VV to show that they XXXXX
lo cusku cu pilno zo .a'a lo nu jarco lo ka ce'u jundi
The speaker uses "a'a" to show that they are paying attention.
2009/2/11 J Y <kkm2019@gmail.com>:
> a'a jundi
> a'e cikna
> a'i ?
troci
> a'o cpana
pacna
> a'u cinri
se cinri
> ai jdice
Not quite right, but there is no gismu that means "x1 intends to do x2".
> au djica
> e'a curmi
> e'e kakne
Here I would use one for "x1 exhorts/encourages/entreats/incites/dares
x2 to do x3"
Perhaps "xlura" or "talsa".
> e'i to'e zifre
Here I would use "minde".
> e'o cpedu
> e'u stidi
> ei bilga
"bilga" only works when the speaker is also the agent. But "ei" is
more general, "x1 feels that x2 ought to be the case", where x2 is not
necesarily something that the speaker has to do.
> i'a ?
na'e fapro
> i'e darlu
zanru
> i'i gubni
kansa
> i'o ?
ckire
> i'u slabu
se slabu
> ia krici
> ie tugni
> ii terpa
> io sinma
> iu nelci
prami
> o'a jgira
> o'e jibni
Maybe "cnijbi".
> o'i kajde
> o'o renvi
xendo
> o'u surla
> oi to'e mansa
pante
> u'a cpacu
jinga
> u'e manci
se manci
> u'i zdile
se zdile
> u'o virnu
> u'u xenru
> ua facki
> ue spaji
> ui gleki
> uo mulno
snada, mulgau
> uu kecti
>
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> fi'i lei stika
mu'o mi'e xorxes