[lojban-beginners] Re: How to express " though " "even if "

[Minimiscience <minimiscience@gmail.com>]

de'i li 02 pi'e 03 pi'e 2009 la'o fy. J Y .fy. cusku zoi skamyxatra.
> Is it :
> 
> mi pindi .i ku'i mi gleki
.skamyxatra

That literally means "I am poor.  However, I am happy."

> ----  mi gleki .i seku'ibo mi pindi

That's grammatically incorrect.  "{ku'i}" is a discursive (of {selma'o} UI) and
so can't be modified by "{se}" or "{bo}" (perhaps you were thinking of
"{ki'u}"?).

> ----  mi gleki gi'u sei da'inai pindi

"{da'i}" is also a discursive, and so there is absolutely no reason to precede
it with "{sei}."  In fact, in this instance, the "{sei}" also includes the
"{pindi}", resulting in the incomplete statement "I am happy, regardless of [In
fact, one is poor] ..." in which "{gi'u}" has no right operand.

Combining your attempts into "{mi gleki gi'u ku'i pindi}" (or "{mi pindi ku'i
segi'u gleki}") should provide the correct combination of contrast and
causative independence that you're trying to convey, though it doesn't
explicitly state that you are, in fact, poor.  Looking through the {cmavo} list
right now, "{ki'unai lonu mi pindi kei mi gleki}" seems to be exactly what you
want; I was unaware that "{nai}" could be attached to modals.  Carrying the use
of uncommon constructs a step further, "{mi pindi gi'e seki'unai bo gleki}" may
be even more desirable for you, along with its many variations, which are left
as an exercise to the reader.

mu'omi'e .kamymecraijun.

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