[lojban-beginners] Re: simple question

[Luke Bergen <lukeabergen@gmail.com>]

correct me if I'm wrong anybody but...

the way I understand it is that ja/je/jo/ju are used in connecting words in a tanru.  So "lo gerku je nakni" is a tanru (treated as a single sumti in the bridi) that means "the thing that is a dog and male" whereas if you had just said "lo gerku nakni" you're being vague and are saying something more like "the dog type-of male".

.a/.e/.o/.u is for saying "these two sumti fall into this place" but keeps them seperate.  So "lo gerku .e nakni" would be "the dog and the male" not speaking of 1 thing but of two things.

finally ga/ge/gi/go/gu are just used for giving a reader/listener the knowledge that a logical connective is coming up, like "either A or B" is "ga .abu gi by"

I'm not sure if in all these cases there should have been a descriptor before the second element in the connective.

 - Luke Bergen

On Thu, Apr 30, 2009 at 3:07 PM, Ryan Leach <rsw.leach@gmail.com> wrote:

I'm afraid that chapter just made me more confused when I first read it.

On Thu, Apr 30, 2009 at 11:54 AM, komfo,amonan <komfoamonan@gmail.com> wrote:
> On Thu, Apr 30, 2009 at 2:45 PM, Ryan Leach <rsw.leach@gmail.com> wrote:
>>
>> I want to say "lemons and also oranges are both citrus fruits"
>>
>> The connective word system for lojban is still messing with my brain.
>>
>> I think it would go like this
>>
>> "le najnimre ja le pelnimre cu grute"
>>
>> but I'm not sure. Any help on the ands and such for lojban or a place
>> to look them up even?
>
> lo najnimre .e lo pelnimre cu nimre
>
> Connectives are covered in chapter 14 of the Complete Lojban Language <
> http://www.lojban.org/publications/reference_grammar/chapter14.html >.
>
> mu'o mi'e komfo,amonan
>