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[lojban-beginners] Re: Adjectival predicative



On Monday 25 May 2009 16:18:40 Michael Turniansky wrote:
>   I think the problem here is that you refer to an "exclusive relation
> between 'the door' and 'white'".  But I think that's chimerical.
> There is no relationship between the door and white outside of the
> action at hand.  "White" hasn't anything to do with the door, it has
> to do with the act of painting.  So either "ko'a blabi cintypu'i le
> vorme" or "ko'a cintypu'i le vorme tai lo blabi" (or yes, the
> for-some-reason-dreaded-by-you "ko'a cintypu'i le vorme lo blabi").
> Just because a grammatical construct exists in language A doesn't mean
> it exists in lojban (like "noun" ;-))   Notice what wikipedia says:
> "predicative is an element of the predicate of a sentence which
> supplements the subject or object _by means of the verb_"  It's part
> of the verb, so yes, that's exactly what the sumti places or modals
> do.

I think the proper constructions are "ko'a simlu lo ka fengu" and "ko'a 
cintyskagau le vorme lo ka blabi".

Pierre