[lojban-beginners] Re: being

[Luke Bergen <lukeabergen@gmail.com>]

thanks guys, I think so far the closest thing I've seen is "do ca'o cladu" since "you are being loud" doesn't explicitly state that you aren't normally like that, but it does imply it (which is what xorxes is saying "do ca'o cladu" says also).

So then, if I wanted to explicitly specify the tense would it be grammatical to say "do [pu|ca|ba] ca'o cladu"?

 - Luke Bergen

2009/6/4 Jorge Llambías <jjllambias@gmail.com>

On Wed, Jun 3, 2009 at 10:35 PM, Luke Bergen <lukeabergen@gmail.com> wrote:
> How would one express something like "you are being loud"?

do ca'o cladu

That could also be "you were being loud" or "you will be being loud",
so it's not about when but about the ongoingness.

> So, how would one express that "you" are not intrinsically, but are
> temporarily being "loud"?

ca'o somewhat suggests that your being loud has started at some point
and will end at some point, although it doesn't explicitly say that,
it just says that it is going on. To emphasize the temporariness you
would have to say something like:

 do zasni lo ka cladu

For permanent:

 do vitno lo ka cladu

And for intrinsic:

 do se jinzi lo ka cladu

You could also use ZEhAs:

 do ze'i cladu
 "you were loud for a little while"

  do ze'a cladu
  "you were loud for a while"

  do ze'u cladu
  "you were loud for a long time"

Those could also be about the present, but it's more difficult to talk
about a fixed length of time of something that is currently still
going on. And then:

  do ze'e cladu
  "you are permanently loud"

mu'o mi'e xorxes