On 22 November 2009, at 9:05 AM, Pierre Abbat wrote:
On Saturday 21 November 2009 14:44:45 Joshua Choi wrote:
Got a couple of usages question on the difference between the se cmavo
and the sel rafsi. Is there any difference between "ti se citka mi"
and "ti selcti mi"? Or "ta se klani" and "ta selklani"? One forms
phrases—don't know if you'd call them "tanru"—and the other forms
words
—which probably count as lujvo. And don't lujvo have "specified"
meanings that are more specific than their corresponding tanru? Does
that affect words like selcti?
Generally there's no difference, as "se citka" is not a tanru. If
"seltci"
(or "selbo'e") is used in a lujvo, though, then there is a
difference. "selcajlanci" means "flag that symbolizes something
traded",
i.e. "trademark", whereas "se canja lanci" could mean that, and
could also
mean "flag that is traded".
On Sun, Nov 22, 2009 at 11:16 AM, Joshua Choi <joshua@choi.name>
wrote:
Thanks for the reply; I see now. So when it comes to the difference
between pairs like "selbrode" and "selbo'e", there's no difference
at all, right? They're semantically equivalent, and in this case
they even have the same amount of syllables.
So which one do people tend to use? Is there a rule of pragmatics,
or does one not have to care at all about it?
Those two are semantically identical lujvo, differing only in form.
The canonical form of any lujvo is the one with the lowest score
among the possible rafsi combinations according to the lujvo scoring
algorithm (CLL 4:12).
mu'o mi'e komfo,amonan