[lojban-beginners] Re: Starting stories

[Michael Turniansky <mturniansky@gmail.com>]

On Thu, Feb 11, 2010 at 9:51 AM, Luke Bergen <lukeabergen@gmail.com> wrote:
> Oh wow. ÂI didn't realize that. ÂHow would you even use {ki} with a modal?
> ÂWould it be like {mi klama le zdani va'oki mi famgau lo gunka} or would it
> be {... va'oÂmi famgauÂlo gunka ki}. ÂAnd would all other bridi following
> this one have the automatic sumti added to them of {... va'oÂmi famgauÂlo
> gunka}?
> My brain is all melty now.
>
  Just like tenses, it goes right after the modal, so your fist
example would be  correct, except that the "mi famgau lo gunka" has to
be preceded by " lo nu".   All tags are followed only by a single
sumti.  You need an abstractor if you want to put in a bridi.  And
that's correct, until you cancel it with a kiku, that va'o phrase
would be attached to everything.   (So that's "mi klama le zdani
va'oki lo nu mi famgau lo gunka" (although that means under the
conditions of you finishing off the worker, which is probably NOT what
you meant.  "se gunka" is, I expect, what you wanted, unless you are
building a robot.

  See for example, the first (humongous) sentence of my translation of
the book of Esther -- ca _KI_ lo cedra be tu'a la .axacyveROC. po'u la
.axacyveROC. poi turni la xinselje'a kubi'i la kuc. vu'o noi selje'a
parezemei ku'o ku'o ca lo nu .abu goi la .axacyveROC. po'u le
nolraitru cu zutse le .abu nolstizu be tu'i la cucan. no'u le raltca
kei ca lo cimoi be lo'i nanca pe lo nu .abu turni keiku .abu cu zbasu
pa balsai seva'u ro nobli kujoi ro selfu ca'u ge lo jenmi be la pars
joi la gugrmedia gi lu'o lo nobli .e lo jansu lu'u pe lo selje'a
.icabo .abu jarco loi kargu pe lo selsi'a selnolraitru .e loi selmanci
pe lo kamba'i ca'o so'i djedi po'u lo pabinomei

  The entire story takes place in the time of Ahasuerus.  I never
unstickified it.
            --gejyspa