[lojban-beginners] Re: Class--and non-gismu vocab in general

[Ian Johnson <blindbravado@gmail.com>]

Useful once you have a good tanru or when trying to interpret
another's lujvo that you don't recognize; less useful for making your
own. I suppose, though, that making tanru/lujvo is one of the harder
parts of getting good at a language like this; you have to be
comfortable enough with the gismu and the cmavo to see how you can
string together combinations of them to make new concepts. And when
you're just getting started, that level of comfort just isn't really
available to you.

mu'omi'e latros.

On Thu, Feb 25, 2010 at 9:28 AM, Luke Bergen <lukeabergen@gmail.com> wrote:
> Well, one really cool tool that I've used for making lujvo is jvozba (lujvo
> zbasu) http://jwodder.freeshell.org/lojban/jvozba.cgi?lujvo=
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> On Thu, Feb 25, 2010 at 9:07 AM, Ian Johnson <blindbravado@gmail.com> wrote:
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>> I know of jbovlaste and similar sources; my issue is in putting
>> together tanru and lujvo to express concepts like these. This one, at
>> least at that level, I should've probably been able to make, knowing
>> ctuca and ckule, but at the same time it seems a bit vague, even
>> relative to the English equivalent.
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>> For "trippy" in this case it would be along the lines of causing the
>> feeling of trippiness (like a weird kaleidoscope or something; not so
>> much hallucinogens per se), rather than feeling trippy (which I agree
>> would probably work well as an attitudinal combination).
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>> mu'omi'e latros.
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>> On Thu, Feb 25, 2010 at 12:52 AM, Luke Bergen <lukeabergen@gmail.com>
>> wrote:
>> > 1) You could try a lujvo like {nuncu'e} or {nunselctu}, or something
>> > similar
>> > for class.  Then it would be {mi klama lo nunselctu .i co'o}
>> > 2) jbovlaste.lojban.org is a good source for word definitions.
>> > 3) I guess it would depend on what you mean by "trippy".  Maybe some
>> > lujvo
>> > with {cizra} in it some where?  Or you might be able to do it with an
>> > attitudinal like {.u'e .uanai ro'e} or something.  There are others who
>> > could do a better job of making a good attitudinal blend for "trippy".
>> >
>> > On Wed, Feb 24, 2010 at 11:01 PM, Ian Johnson <blindbravado@gmail.com>
>> > wrote:
>> >>
>> >> Any ideas about how a university student might say:
>> >> "I'm going to class now, bye."
>> >> I know how to say everything but "class", and I can't think of a very
>> >> efficient way to even get that into "Lojbanic English", much less into
>> >> Lojban itself.
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>> >> In general, I'm also curious about where I might go to get ideas about
>> >> vocab that can't be attained straight from a gismu list. This is
>> >> probably a much more difficult example, but it popped up today as
>> >> well: "trippy." I again have no idea even where to start with
>> >> translating that concept.
>> >>
>> >> mu'omi'e latros.
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