[lojban-beginners] Re: Class--and non-gismu vocab in general

[Ian Johnson <blindbravado@gmail.com>]

Interesting; I'm seeing a bit more merit to this when it's presented
this way. It seemed odd before, but it makes some sense now. To take
this to its logical conclusion, though, how would you say "What
classes are you taking this semester?" I'm not sure it'd be the same
word, and if it were I think you'd be using a little flexibility in
translation (a direct gloss might be something like "what teaching
events do you repeatedly go to this semester?") And I don't think it
can be as simple as {do tadni ma} with any combination of
tenses/aspects either. Even if it were, then you run into "what's your
major?" as a problem, which to me is closer to {do tadni ma} (at least
based on the definition; it's not like I've really seen it in use).

mu'omi'e latros.

2010/2/25 Jorge Llambías <jjllambias@gmail.com>:
> On Thu, Feb 25, 2010 at 4:07 PM, tijlan <jbotijlan@gmail.com> wrote:
>> On 25 February 2010 05:52, Luke Bergen <lukeabergen@gmail.com> wrote:
>>> 1) You could try a lujvo like {nuncu'e} or {nunselctu}, or something similar
>>> for class.  Then it would be {mi klama lo nunselctu .i co'o}
>>
>> I personally wouldn't object to having a NU-ed sumti as {klama}'s
>> proper x2, because I think that any place is essentially an
>> abstraction (and also that being aware of this would open up some
>> cognitive & philosophical possibilities).
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> I don't have a problem with going to an event either.
>
>>  But some jbopre might still
>> prefer adding {tu'a}: {mi klama tu'a lo nunselctu}.
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> I'm not sure about this use of "tu'a" though. Normally "tu'a ko'a"
> means "lo nu ko'a co'e". "tu'a" takes a sumti and returns an event in
> which that sumti is a participant. Here what you want is the place
> where an event takes place. This is going in the opposite direction,
> since the place could be an argument of the event. The normal way to
> do it would be "lo jai bu'u nunselctu", "the place of being taught".
>
> I also think "nunctu" is just as good or better than "nunselctu" for "class":
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> nunctu: x1 is a class given by x2 to x3 teaching x4 about x5 by method x6.
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> nunselctu: x1 is a class given to x2 by x3 teaching x4 about x5 by method x6.
>
> "mi klama lo nunctu", "I go to the teaching" could be said by the
> teacher or by a student.
>
> mu'o mi'e xorxes
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