Re: [lojban-beginners] Re: Curses!

[Jonathan Jones <eyeonus@gmail.com>]

Okay, that's utter bullshit. Whether a sentence parses has nothing to do with its truth value. The grammar doesn't care about the content. "Lojban is based on logic" != "Lojban can't be used to say false or illogical things".

On Sat, Dec 17, 2011 at 5:36 PM, Lee Carlson <lorddraqo@gmail.com> wrote:

If you go to the lojban site you will find a couple of discussions on curses, and swearing. Since the language is based on creating logically verifiable statements, most curses simply do not parse, at least not IN lojban. The closest you may come is do bebna (you are a fool) though that does not fulfill the emotional catharsis of calling somebody a "fucking retard" even if it is logically equivalent.

mi'e brais

On Sat, Dec 17, 2011 at 12:18 PM, Anton Golov <kdesevis@gmail.com> wrote:

On 17 December 2011 16:55, Jonathan Jones <eyeonus@gmail.com> wrote:
> I don't believe a word of that. Especially the part about "intellectual
> exercise".
>
>
> On Fri, Dec 16, 2011 at 5:10 PM, Lee Carlson <lorddraqo@gmail.com> wrote:
>>
>> This has been revisited from time-to-time and the outcome is always that
>> curses and such are deeply invested in cultural context. As such a language
>> that is designed to be culturally neutral does not provide curses outside of
>> the cultural context of the particular user. For anyone is raised with
>> lojban as their primary language, the concept of cursing, and expletives
>> will likely be an intellectual exercise, rather than an emotional outburst.
>>
>> mi'e brais
>>

It seems more likely that if people were raised with Lojban as their
primary language, they would develop a vocabulary of curses and
euphemisms of their own.

mi'e jesyspa

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