Re: [lojban-beginners] Re: Curses!

[Lee Carlson <lorddraqo@gmail.com>]

I thought that the cu could be left out if it did not create confusion. As it appears to do so, I will amend my phrasing to reflect this and say: le cevni cu kurji ko
As to arpis comment regarding the need for phrases that require no thought: This is one of my concerns/gripes/disquiets with regard to cursing/swearing. From my experience people use expletives when their desire is to vent emotionally with something that sounds a bit more civilized than a wordless scream of frustration/rage. Expletives, whether curse words, swearing, or otherwise seldom carry any true semantic content other than to provide a purely emotional label for the object of the user's frustration. Most people resort to cursing/swearing when they do not wish to be bothered to cerebrate around their rage/frustration though they want to express their feelings to others around them, or often just themselves. This is why my first responses to this thread were to question why we would need cursing. I can understand nursery rhymes, as these all started out as cautionary tales or lessons for children even if we have lost their original meaning through the years. So my question still stands as: what purpose does cursing fulfill, other than a cathartic release?

mu'o mi'e brais

On Thu, Dec 22, 2011 at 10:30 PM, Pierre Abbat <phma@phma.optus.nu> wrote:

On Thursday 22 December 2011 22:07:08 Lee Carlson wrote:
> I now have a better feel for what aionys is looking for, and I can

> appreciate it more fully. For m'self I use the construction *le cevni kurji
> ko* in place of the traditional pagan "blessed be." Since we are looking at

> expletives that will fit the lojbanic culture, perhaps blessings can also
> be derived. I happen to agree that culturally neutral does not mean
> culturally absent; 'tis just that the culture of lojbanistan is still
> evolving and I had not considered curses to this point.

You mean "le cevni cu kurji ko", right?

Pierre
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